I’ve owned a Baratza Virtuoso (barely adequate, if that), a Turin DF 64 V. 1, a Niche Zero, and the Eureka Mignon Zero. The Turin was more clarity/fruity forward, though not by much, but I sold that for a Niche Zero. I owned them both for a little while and decided to keep the Niche. The Niche was fine—super user friendly, and easy to clean—but for not-particularly-rational reasons I was drawn to the Eureka (for esthetics mainly), so I sold the Niche. The Niche and the Eureka are both quiet, and great for my preference of dark beans and classic Italian espresso—- really, between the two you can't go wrong. But unless you can find a used Niche there's a big price difference.
As I reread my post I sound like a person always after the next thing, but I did eventually stop questing something different!
I have 4. A C40 and a Zp6 for pour over (one stays at work). And a DF64V and a niche zero for espresso. Got the Df64V to try flat burrs for espresso so might sell the niche but tempted to keep it for dark roasts.
I've not long bought a Sage Dual Boiler, paired with a DF64V and it's absolutely brilliant. For me the main selling point was the heat up time which is around 10 mins from cold to the group and portafilter fully heated. If you're in a rush then it's about 6 mins to get a warm group, hot water and steam. Had the grinder 2 years and the DB around a month, no regrets so far.
on the DF64**V**, which is a better, more precise / higher quality build of the DF64, the stock burrs are also not that great for pour-over. But I like the workflow, and the grinder can work well with other burs - such as Ode2 burrs (they are sold separately), the SSP MP - alike burrs from AliEx (very inexpensive) or others (SSP originals, Lebrew, etc.)
Ode Gen 2 is fine and a solid option (especially if you manage to get it for a good price), but the overall build is not that precise, and factory tolerances are more loose there
if you mean the Opus 2 (not the original Opus, gen 1), then the grinder is specifically built for light roast usage (as stated by its designer), as light roasts have more dense beans and are harder to grind, so the machine has strong enough gears (torque) to operate like that long-term
and from comments here on reddit, it performs very well for the filter / V60 as well, in terms of taste profile... from what its designer said, it was also among their design goals, that the Opus 2 would perform well for filter, so its large conical burrs are tuned to do V60 well, by design
so, my opinion is that the Opus 2 is a pretty safe bet
the DF64 will not do very well with the V60, unless you change the stock burrs, and make sure the burr alignment is set well... which can be rather time-consuming and effort-intensive task. I have the DF64V (a more premium version of the DF64, with better tolerances and out-of-factory alignment), and know its stock burrs first-hand - since I do filter only, had to replace them
on the DF64**V**, which is a better, more precise / higher quality build of the DF64, the stock burrs are also not that great for pour-over. But I like the workflow, and the grinder can work well with other burs - such as Ode2 burrs (they are sold separately), the SSP MP - alike burrs from AliEx (very inexpensive) or others (SSP originals, Lebrew, etc.)
Ode Gen 2 is fine and a solid option (especially if you manage to get it for a good price), but the overall build is not that precise, and factory tolerances are more loose there
if you mean the Opus 2 (not the original Opus, gen 1), then the grinder is specifically built for light roast usage (as stated by its designer), as light roasts have more dense beans and are harder to grind, so the machine has strong enough gears (torque) to operate like that long-term
and from comments here on reddit, it performs very well for the filter / V60 as well, in terms of taste profile... from what its designer said, it was also among their design goals, that the Opus 2 would perform well for filter, so its large conical burrs are tuned to do V60 well, by design
so, my opinion is that the Opus 2 is a pretty safe bet
the DF64 will not do very well with the V60, unless you change the stock burrs, and make sure the burr alignment is set well... which can be rather time-consuming and effort-intensive task. I have the DF64V (a more premium version of the DF64, with better tolerances and out-of-factory alignment), and know its stock burrs first-hand - since I do filter only, had to replace them
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