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I have a DF64p and bought a regular DF64 to keep with my other machine at my parent’s house. If I buy a 1k+ grinder and I think it makes that much of difference I will 100% buy another one. I’m thinking of upgrading my machine first tho.
I have a DF64p and bought a regular DF64 to keep with my other machine at my parent’s house. If I buy a 1k+ grinder and I think it makes that much of difference I will 100% buy another one. I’m thinking of upgrading my machine first tho.
It's not elusive. Get a Df64 if you want some aftermarket burrs or just get a df54. I basically always recommend the df54 because I'm super impressed with it great and its extremely affordable for a good grinder.
I've used one lots. Absolutely brilliant. It's pretty small, pretty quiet, the burrs don't shine in any one department but they're good for everything and it's stepless. For $250, it's at the point where you would never need to "upgrade" if you keep it clean, it's also not been very messy and retention is good. Some people have had complaints about mess and static but I think this can depend on environment/ beans as well as keeping it clean. I think it's an absolute no brainer for the money. I've used plenty of more expensive grinders (Niche Zero , DF64 original, Encore, EG-1, Ek43, Eurekas etc) and the DF54 really doesn't have any drawbacks imo.
I've used plenty of more expensive grinders and have had zero issue with my original DF64 personally. Alignment has stayed well but I do clean and check this once a month. I've used a friend's DF54 lots as well which is much nicer than the OGDF64
I have a 64v with dlc I will have to respectfully disagree. You can get some super bright high clarity/ tea like brews on low rpm, and does espresso no problem. It’s been my daily driver for 5 years. Only issue I have with it is switching over to espresso from pour over requires a quick 5 min brushing. But at the end of the day it’s always better to have dedicated grinder for both.
I have a 64v and it will do both quite nicely. Make sure you get the dlc burrs they are a huge step up from the stock italmills. You do need to brush out the grind chamber if you plan to switch from pour over to espresso. It does retain some grinds. I would definitely recommend it for either, but hold onto your encore for espresso.
So I’m only gonna list the 64mm flat burr grinders just because I like the flexibility and it would be fun to mess around with even with a Z2 in the future. But it pretty much means only Chinese grinders at this price point. CF64V: $400 USD, 64mm vertically mounted burrs, 400w brushless motor with variable rpm for fines adjustment, all the retention and static mitigation gimmicks, stock burrs are DLC coated. Pretty everything you want (other than being ugly) Timemore 064S: $480 on sale, better machining precision and more effective prebreaker auger than the CF64V, bad popcorning, no ionizer or bellow, but nice fidget toy with the rotational knocker and all the magnets. Underpowered 150w brushless motor but quieter as a result and gets away with it because of the effective pre breaker. DF64 is inferior than CF64V in every way for about the same price. It is ironically over priced now but still gets recommended all the time because of past popularity rather than offering the competitive value that it had originally which gave it its popularity. DF64V: $500 USD I think, but the latest version hasn’t started shipping in the US yet. Latest version has a best in class 400w servo motor and variable rpm, externally mounted ionizer to go along with the magnetic chute, and also added a flickable metal declumper flap which serves a similar function as knockers in vertical burr grinders to get out retention and also avoid clogs. Tilted horizontal mounted burrs, but the foot print is very small as a result.
DF64 all day long! I’ve got one of the interactions of the first interactions of the first version. Perhaps the 3rd enhancement. I upgraded the burrs because it only cost $350 about 4-years ago plus burrs taking it up to $499. IT WORKS GREAT!!!! From my experience I would buy one again if I were to buy a new one. I works great so I’m not motivated to change.
DF54 v3 is a solid choice. A little over budget tho. I have the DF64 and it has been a phenomenal decision.
Single dose grinder is the way to go. DF64 and get some upgraded burrs down the road.
I have a df 64 and although i have upgraded my espresso grinder, i still use the df64 for drip. It’s a very good piece for the money. It works well enough and produces a fairly good consistent grind.
The df 64 will do both, it’s a pain in the ass to switch between grind sizes all the time though. Id honestly get a df64 and a cheaper one for regular drip coffee. I used to have a df64 for espresso and a capresso grinder for drip. It worked well. I now use my df64 for drip and a libra ap for espresso.
I’m not sure about the V60, maybe someone can advise; but the DF64 is a fantastic grinder for any espresso and is built like a tank.
I’m happy with df64. That said I make one drink per day.