I have a DF64p and bought a regular DF64 to keep with my other machine at my parent’s house. If I buy a 1k+ grinder and I think it makes that much of difference I will 100% buy another one. I’m thinking of upgrading my machine first tho.
I have a DF64p and bought a regular DF64 to keep with my other machine at my parent’s house. If I buy a 1k+ grinder and I think it makes that much of difference I will 100% buy another one. I’m thinking of upgrading my machine first tho.
I’ve been using [my DF64P](https://www.reddit.com/r/coffeestations/s/KBdnccp3qo) for the past 3 years and it has been great for me. This version has the grind size adjustment in the base so I can take it apart and clean it and it keeps the setting it was at. It is all metal and I’ve never thought of it as being “cheap”.
I got DF64 because I like the flexibility of using it for filter too, and value for money. Also have a bambino plus. If you’re just starting out IMO go for value and flexibility and learn to discern what you like. Consider buying it used if you can - DF64/54 retains value well so if you don’t like it after experimentation you can sell for conical, or better yet have 2 grinders 😅
Difference between DF something and a monolith is what is I can speak to, and it’s significant.
\- consistency- at the same number I get same results for pour over and espresso , every time, because tolerances are so tight on a high quality grinder
\- taste profile - for light roasts , all the things about clarity and different notes made no sense on df64. On Kafatek monolith flat max, the smell and flavour profile is on a different level.
\- build quality - you do get what you pay for here. There are no shortcuts.
Is this for espresso as well? It isn't clear (although generally this question comes up when people want to do both).
If you're looking at doing espresso...I'd definitely either go DF64 or 064S. Encore ESP will be ok but I think you give up a fair bit...it really depends on the style you like.
Ode is a great grinder...but dialing in espresso is a little more challenging...I don't see any reason to go that way with other things out there.
DF54 can do both although I think there are some limitations there that I dislike from a burr standpoint...apparently you can reverse the motor and open up what else is available...
I think you're better off buying a pour over grinder..you can always keep your old one for espresso if need be.
To me you're going to be giving up a fair bit to try to get flexibility. But if that's what you want...the 064s or DF64 v2.5 will both be good..the DF64 has some quirks but getting better and better..
Ode II is great for pour over...but even with burrs capable of espresso, you won't have the dial in capability you would want for espresso.
All of them can have burrs replaced...so if you're talking stock burrs, you're definitely not using the stock Ode II for espresso. The DF64 stock burrs are more espresso oriented as are the 64s...
But I've made the broad (and maybe incorrect) assumption you'd know you would need to replace these to do what you want..I mean you can use the stock DF64 burrs, for example..for both...but I think you're trading off a more espresso profile burr and sacrificing your main use case.
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