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I usually just read here; not contribute. But I also went the 'buy once, cry once' route, so here's my thoughts. I stretched my budget a lot and bought a Option-O P64 and a Decent DE1 Pro. A Lelit was my second choice. I am extremely happy with both my P64 and my Decent. Counter space was a consideration for me. Whatever you choose, be aware that every setup has a learning curve. Be patient. Your first dozen or so espressos might be mediocre. But after that your worse espresso will be very very good. Good luck. And enjoy
I have a lagom p64 and think it is fantastic. I would get a p80 if I were in the market now.
I have a P64 with SSP MP and I'm very happy with the result. I think it's my end game grinder and killed my desire to upgrade further. Might try another burr set in the future but that's way less costly than switching up grinders.
Linea mini with an option-o p64 with the mizen Omni burrs. Considering SSP HU burrs for purely espresso and a 1zpresso for pour overs
The Niche is fine, but i know given it's age and limitations, that i can get more out of my P64 (with changed burrs). My plan is to keep the P64, change burrs, and use that as my milk grinder. New grinder will do everything else, running two burr sets. I know that won't make sense to some, and that's okay, but for me, it's where i'm looking to go. If i cannot find a grinder that fits my needs, i am fine with keeping the Niche going for another couple of years.
I'm a p64 and df64 owner and literally looking for a niche for milk drinks / "darker" roasts... Lol OP - you have one of the best grinders for dark roasts / milk drinks. Save your money and buy premo beans.
After looking around for a while, I bought the P80 last week. Definitely don't buy the P64, way older product and the P80 should be just an upgrade at a nearly identical cost, unless we're talking second hand market, but I'd probably still stick to the P80. I might've stretched my budget to buy the Zerno Z2 (or Z1) if I was in the US, but the P80 with the all inclusive shipping to EU made way more sense. Wasn't planning on spending that much, but saving a bit of money for a bigger purchase down the line is probably worth it, rather buy once cry once. If that budget just wasn't feasible, I'd say that the Lagom Casa or Mazzer Philos would be my main options depending on budget range. Niche Zero seems a bit "outdated" at this point, and also losses in value when having to export it outside of the UK. DF64 is just too "budget oriented" and unpolished even if it can be great for the price. The P80 definitely seems the most end game with 80mm blind burrs with minor cons/issues which are on par with the issues that people have on grinders twice the price and that fall on the "nothing is perfect" end of things.
I love my lagom p64
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