OPTION-O - Lagom P80

I picked one up too! I’ve never owned an electric grinder before and was planning on picking up a P64 this fall when I’ll be in China to save on shipping and duties. the P80 was a no-brainer for me given the price and the fact that I can use it with ULFs.

A few days ago, I finally got hold of my Lagom P80 which marks the end of hand grinding coffee for me since I got into coffee around eight years ago. So far, everything works perfectly and the workflow is great. I’m getting near-zero retention and there isn’t really a need for RDT given the ionizer, RPM purge, and the knocker. As for the 80mm omni burrs, I haven’t had the chance to really season them so my overall impressions could change in time but I would like to give you my general observations for what it’s worth. First things first, these burrs have produce a cup with a very gentle acidity that becomes more pronounced as the coffee sits on your palate. Very different from the pietro I owned where the acidity is one of the first things that hits you when you take a sip. In terms of clarity, I feel like it’s slightly above my my comandante though I would need to AB test after sufficient use of these burrs to draw conclusions. Definitely not as high clarity as a pietro, but still good for pourover. Astringency/drying finish is very, very low and makes for an easy drinking cup and a very forgivable grinder. Body is really good which helps the flavor linger on your palate for longer. All of this adds up to a burr set with a great finish, a great body, good clarity, and a balanced cup profile. Lastly, I’ve found that you need to go pretty corse to get the best out of this grinder. I’ve found 7.3 a good starting point and I do 4-5 pour pulse recipes to compensate. Feel free to ask me questions or to let me know what’s worked for you on this grinder if you own one.

Can’t really say yet. I need more time with the grinder to see how it improves with seasoning and how it fares across different processes and coffees. If clarity improves a bit, I can see myself liking it more than a pietro but that’s not promised. I do feel comfortable in saying that I like it more than my comandante though. It wouldn’t bother me if I didn’t end up liking this more than the pietro for pourover though as I bought this grinder to do both espresso and pourover, fully understanding that there are some concessions to be made when looking for a burr capable of both. If ever I want a pourover focused grinder, I’ll buy a burr specifically for that.

Finally got back from travelling and was able to make a couple shots on my flair 58 with a trad lever profile this morning. Its results on espresso were great. Better than most cafes I’ve been to. My wife, who doesn’t like espresso, even thought that it was good. The burr’s description from Option-O really is on the money. Sweet and clear. The shots weren’t really astringent and linger on the palette allowing the flavors to evolve kind of like a good whiskey. It’s also clear enough that the flavor notes of the light roast I used weren’t lost in the one milk drink I made.

Actually very good approach! But I ordered straight away when orders opened. P80 is continuity of P64. Hope everything will be ok 🤞🙂

Ordered. Like my Casa workflow and feel. Quality product. Will replace df64

Yup, ordered within the first minute! Reasonable price and shipping including duties. I wish it came with a PCS like the 01.

Profitec Pro 800, with a WPM ZP1 or Lagom P80 grinder 👍😎

I waited 3 months but it is such a flexible fun grinder. The burr changes are a breeze and for single dosing it’s perfect at this price point (p80 might be better I guess). Mazzer was too bulky for me and I liked the look of both Z1 and Option O way better. I would strongly consider those two options!

Micra has a separate hot water wand, so you will be able to "drop hot water" for Americanos, tea, and other uses. If you want to save some money, you should consider other small dual boiler machines such as Rancilio Silvia Pro X or Profitec Move. These are all "simple but excellent" machines that will match the espresso quality produced by the Micra, but you will lose the bragging rights and visual appeal of a La Marzocco machine. I'm not sure what you mean by "lower-fuss". Any dual boiler machine will have a similar workflow to your Pro 600. The advantage of any of the machines I mentioned above is they are not E61, which gives them much faster warm up, and you don't have to deal with periodic lubrication of the E61 cam. Going with a less expensive machine will free up more of your budget for a better grinder. Both Mazzer Philos and Lagom P80 are excellent "no fuss" grinders. When brewing espresso, the grinder is much more important than the espresso machine.

Easy choice: At that price point Mazzer Philos with i189D burrs. More money: new Lagom P80. A Zerno grinder of any stripe will cost you more than either, and IMO and for a variety of reasons just isn’t worth the extra cost.

Do not buy the philos at $1500. Get the zero z1 if want 64mm or the option o p80 for bigger 80mm burrs The introductory price of $950 was a great buy for the philos and made up for some of the quirks (huge counter footprint, odd grind size adjustment on back, cheap materials >> where it doesn’t mater, but still cheap materials << ) Just there are much better options at $1500 like the z1 & P80

Both, I tried it, my co worker has one. It’s a great grinder, very capable, she got it on the introductory offer. It is just way way too big for a 64mm and adjusting it is irritating, and the sentiment is echoed by many owners, and reviewers, and people who just look at it. It is a solid grinder, one of the best 64mm offerings, at $950 not $1500. The p80 and z1 are just better options for similar price Now, if I had 1k for a grinder and it was still $900, I would totally get it. I’m all for getting what you like, just objectively there are way better options at $1500. Heck, I’m a Weber key mk2 owner lol, that is an objectively bad grinder for $2.2k, it makes great spro and all, but for 2k I’m paying for the brand and aesthetic

I would pick 98mm platform over 80mm… Titus Nautilus, Lagom, Levercraft Ultra and its variants, heck… even EK43.