SHARDOR - Professional 64mm Burr Coffee Grinder

Go completely nuts - for another 20 bucks get an [entry level 64mm flat burr electric grinder](https://a.co/d/4lPE5GR). If you like upgrading later? You get a path to other 64 mm flat burrs.

Same here. Very pleased with the results.

Watched YouTube videos on burr alignment. Need to take your time. Disassembly was very straight forward. Need allen wrench (can't remember the size) for burr fasteners.

I got Ode2 burrs for my Shardor. Much better results. Far less fines.

I do Aeropress, Clever Dripper, and drip brewer. I replaced Encore with a Shardor 64 running Ode2 burrs. Encore produced a lot of fines. Have the K6, use it for lighter roasts. Non offense, but any option will give you remarkably better results than blade grinder.

I have been using one since the first of the year and love it. It’s fast and consistent with grinds. I have had 0 issues with it. The retention is also very low.

Highly suggest checking Shardor, it is 64mm solid flat burr grinder for fraction of a price as compared to other name brands.

Get her a grinder first, there's an excellent one on Amazon for really cheap, the shardor 64mm burr grinder cost just a couple of dollars more but its well worth the price for what's essentially a DF64 clone (Pretty much the same internals). The grinder will definitely impact every aspect of her coffee experience for the better, plus, that leaves the espresso maker for a follow up gift on the next occasion! Edit: Keep in mind for making espresso you NEED a grinder, if she doesn't have one yet, she needs one if she wants to make a proper espresso shot. Edit2: OP don't forget about a good espresso scale lol, you should definitely pair the scale with the grinder.

I’ve had the Encore for years and love it. For pourovers, drip, etc. when the motor stopped working, I emailed Barratza and they sent me a new motor with instructions to replace it. It’s a workhorse and a great grinder. I tried using it for espresso and gave up after a few days. It just doesn’t grind fine enough. I read up on budget grinders, looked at old posts here, and ended up getting the Shardor 64. For the money, it’s been great for me.

The Shardor 64mm burr grinder ($130) on Amazon is legit. I have a number of European grinders, all over $1000+ ... And that's sitting on my counter for espresso. It's not the highest quality, motor or exterior wise, but the burr carrier and burrs are very good. If I am feeling nostalgic for some 64mm Mazzer or SSP burrs, it's a 2min fix and it will do a better job. This grinder has been on my watchlist for a bit and will also likely end up on my counter when I finally upgrade my espresso machine... That will likely be a Wendougee to replace my overpriced Eu (although high quality) one.

I would agree, I haven't taken it completely apart, but weight alone suggests a weak motor. Price is always the other factor.. you can easily pay $300 for an okay DC or AC electric motor. Sound is the third sense that says the same..it is slow and almost struggles at times, but good light-medium/medium grinds keep coming out. Again, this is not a prosumer+ grinder...but for $80 - $160, I don't know what's going to compete. From the topic above, 80mm burr space, this may be a prosumer winner. There's not much in this space, unless you want commercial...especially for GBW. For now, will continue to chop some beans up and see!

Another confirmation to mal alignment out of the box. I had 8 layers of foil to address the static burr, and 5 layers on the moving burr

As much as I dislike the DFs for their teething issues so far, I will concede that they have a decent grinder in the DF54, for the price point. However, not a lot of choices in 54mm space, so you're a little bit stuck unless you perform [some surgery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnoqcns4dc). The other contender is the Encore ESP. So much plastic. But a respectable burr for a broad range of espresso and filter roast levels. I would avoid the Breville Smart Grinder for its jankiness. It makes passable cups for dark roast only, and has poor prospects for repairs/upgrades. Similarly, I think Eurekas in general are quite overpriced and hard to use because of their antediluvian grind chamber design (lots of retention) and what might possibly be the industry's most user-unfriendly grind adjustment knob (tiny diameter, unable to calibrate/zero, small adjustments all but impossible due to thread lash, easy to lose track of revolutions). Also, Eureka seems insistent on undersized, under populated, (and underperforming) burrs of proprietary specs, so upgrading/exploring other burrs is not possible. Kidding-not-kidding recommendation: amzn has a $170 grinder from Shardor that can host standard 64mm flat burrs. The grinder itself is a plastic copy of a Mazzer Super Jolly, down to the aggressively sprung but huge grind adjustment dial. However, the grind chamber and carrier are well machined, with a properly sized exit path/chute. Save a few bucks, invest in a pair of SSP MPs or Ditting Cast LS, and call it a day. Hope that helps, let us know how you get on

Other [threads abound](https://old.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1ka7nms/shardor_64mm_flat_burr_grinder_best_espresso/) But yes, it’s a stupidly good deal for a proper 64mm grinder. - Basically, a plastic version of a Mazzer SJ - But, decently milled where it counts (burr chamber/carriers). - will slap a dial indicator on this thing at some point, but mine at least seems well aligned out of the box. - I suspect someone at Shardor accidentally on purpose designed a burr chamber that has a grounds exit path well-balanced against input feed rate of beans, with a rare, properly sized chute. Regrinding and heat damage may be minimized such that the humble stock Italmills are elevated in the cup. - judicious RDT (2 sprays per 16g dose) and bellowing == no retention

youre welcome i had a shardor 64mm, and [wrote about it](https://old.reddit.com/r/espresso/comments/1ka7nms/shardor_64mm_flat_burr_grinder_best_espresso/mqhzdkb/). short answer: - punches way above its weight, silly-good value for money - well machined where it counts - improbably good burr chamber/exit path/chute design (low heat/retention/re-grinding) - stock burrs not bad, but the grinder will take standard 64mm, which is the real benefit -- well populated space, reasonably priced the stock burrs will have superior clarity and decent body, sweetness; they are proprietary to Shardor, but look like traditional italmills. Will definitely spank the BBE for anything lighter than dark, and will probably give dark beans a run for its money. i like the shardor because its an inexpensive way for the curious to explore taste preferences. It;s not perfect, but does not seem to have the clogging, cross-threading, or temp-induced aligment issues of many of the DFs. the metal-bodied Mokkum 64mm is the same grinder with less plastic in the body. they are otherwise copies of the venerable Mazzer Super Jolly

I can confirm that in my early espresso days I tried to reduce the cost by buying Shardor grinders. I bought one. It failed. Their aftersales service was excellent, I must admit. They sent me a replacement without needing a return. The replacement failed. I got a refund after returning the second. Because of the after sales I thought "3rd time lucky" and gambled on a more expensive Shardor. It failed.... Total months from 3 machines that failed. Only 15 months in total for 3 machines. To me, that is not good enough.

I have had 3 Shardor grinders, 2 of them being the model shown, one being a replacement for a cheaper one, the third being a replacement for the second. The first 2 lasted less than 6 months in combined total, and the third showed signs of exhaustion on speciality coffees, at which point i moved up to a Eureka Mignon Manuale. You are much better off with a Barazza ESP or a Breville SGP. Or even a DF54.

I have had 3 Shardor grinders, 2 of them being the model shown, one being a replacement for a cheaper one, the third being a replacement for the second. The first 2 lasted less than 6 months in combined total, and the third showed signs of exhaustion on speciality coffees, at which point i moved up to a Eureka Mignon Manuale. You are much better off with a Barazza ESP or a Breville SGP. Or even a DF54. (Phillintheblank90 suggested I move this post to where it would be more obvious, to act as a warning. I must admit that the vendor of my Shardors gave excellent after sales service, both free replacements were sent free, but that might also suggest that they were resignedly familiar with the problems.)

Dont buy a cheap shardor grinder. I had 3 and all 3 failed within six months of purchase. As stated above, pull the plastic out of the portafilter. For grinding your beans, get whichever Kingrinder hand grinder fits your mood and your budget. Buy a small weighing scale that is accurate to a tenth of a gram from amazon at about 20 currency units or less. All that with a Bambino could easily be enough for a tasty cup of coffee for years. Enjoy the coffee, and the hobby.