TIMEMORE - Sculptor 064S

I have a (kinda old) Baratza Virtuoso, Ode Gen2 and Timemore 064S. You can't grind for espresso with the Ode. The 064S is just a bit fiddly for espresso because the available range is compressed/coarse -- but I use mine every day. My Baratza experience is "emergency use only" but a friend is quite happy with the ESP (filter/drip).

On my bar currently is a Fellow Ode, Baratza Vario, and a Timemore 064s. Had SSP cast in the 064 but probably swapping them to the Ode now. All that to say, I could have just one of any of these and be perfectly happy. Timemore is probably my favorite as far as quality and workflow, plus it can genuinely pull double duty. Ode is great but obviously you’re not getting espresso there. Vario is an old design with clunky workflow but the burrs are great—in fact, the Mahlkonig X54 is essentially just an updated Vario. All these are great grinders.

The Ode is hot garbage, get the Sculptor kids.

I'm pretty happy with my Timemore 064s. I got it early on at a promo price about a year ago. I use it almost exclusively for espresso. I had a PCB go up on me recently and Timemore sent me a replacement. The replacement took a couple of "back & forth's" and the first replacement they sent was the wrong PCB so there can be some communication issues with these folks. All in all I still like my 064s. No regrets. I have a Niche Zero also which I like too.

Don't know if my incident is any evidence that "they are having problems". My occurrence is probably just a random event. If there's any "problem" I think it's some communication issues and from my experience it's not horrible, just a little frustrating.

About 0.1-0.2 grams of retention is what I’m getting with a 064s too, and at least some of that just gets stuck to a dosing cup and to inner walls of the grinder nozzle, and is easily removed by the blower they included with the unit. I don’t think that that stuff exchanges though, as after going from a pourover grind to an espresso setting, I get the exact extraction time/yield both on the first shot, and on consecutive ones.

The obvious answer would be the DF64v, the DF64's slimmer and prettier sister. I'm not in love with the wooden block for the catch cup to sit on, it's weird that they didn't stick with the tried and true forks, but it's undeniably a lot closer to the sleek elegance of the lagom P64. The other 64mm flat option but in a different form factor would be the timemore sculptor 064S. Quite a good looking machine imo, by all accounts very good, although a bit more of a pain than most to gain access to the burr chamber.

yeah something's wrong here. I saw so many more recommendations for timemore 064s in this sub which led me to buy it

Both are excellent for and really geared toward filter/pour over. They can handle mom’s pot but not true espresso. Low end of Ode Gen 2 is around 250-300 microns and 078 is 370. The 078S and 064S can both grind finder and do True espresso. But from everything I gather, those birds don’t produce as good of a pour over cup. I had actually ordered the 078S first because I wanted to future proof it if I ever got into espresso, but ended up returning it without opening the box because I got a lot of feedback that it wasn’t as good for pour over. For what you’re looking for, Ode Gen 2 will give you most bang for your buck and pretty great price-quality ratio. The 078 is incredible and a noticeable improvement over the the Ode Gen 2, but it is basically twice the price - and the cups aren’t twice as good. Still worth it in my opinion.

I'm happy with my Timemore 64s, I backed it on Kickstarter. Super low retention, great grind size distribution, great cups. I only wish it was easier to clean. (I haven't cleaned it yet...)

Have u considered a timemore 064s that's what i use for both filter and espresso and i love it. can't see that it's been mentioned on this thread. It is my first electric grinder though so nothing really to compare it too but I find going from filter to espresso reasonably easy on it

Really easy honestly I love it. yeah 1 or 2 beans may get stuck u just push them in with your finger. Lance has it quite high up his list of grinders the main reason I went for it was because I wanted to do both espresso and filter had it 2 months now and no regrets at all

I'm rocking a timemore 064s that I use for both and love it i use it for espresso v60 and clever dripper