Turin Grinders - DF64 Gen 2

Was in this same boat a couple years back. Wait for a good sale, I got the bambino regular and a DF64 v 2 grinder. The grinder is much more important and it works well with pour over at this stage.

I love my D64 Second Gen 2!

In my opinion, your best options are: * Turin SK40 - $200 (I own and use an older version of this daily, and it's been going strong for 2 years) * Mii Coffe D40+ -200 * Truin DF54 - $250 * Turin DF64 Gen 2 - $400 * Niche Zero - $650 Some things to note: * The DF54 is a miniature version of the DF64. * The DF54 and DF64 are flat burrs. * Both DF54 and DF64 are probably the most popular "budget" options * The D40+ and SK40 are the same machine with different grind adjustment methods. If you only drink espresso, I recommend the SK40 for the smaller adjustments. If you drink both espresso and drip/pour over then get the D40+ * The SK40, D40+, and Niche are conical burrs. * The Niche is probably the best-built and most reliable of this list. (I've personally seen it used in commercial settings/cafes) Finally, don't over think the flat vs cone debate. If you're just beginning your espresso journey, chances are that your palate has not been developed/trained enough to notice those minute differences.

You're almost splitting hairs at this point but sure those are, in fact, differences. Plastic cups come with all new DF64 now It's not proven if the plasma generator is less effective or if the chute is just smaller and clogs more. The adjustable zero indicator can be added when buying the DF54 now. The bellows falling off is rarely mentioned. I'd argue that's probably less of a design issue and more of an case by cases basis.

The Encore is a good grinder at its price point, but the K6 may even be better. I enjoyed grinding by hand for a long time and still do when traveling, but the grind quality of my Philos is just too good ;) My advice is to spend once as much as you can, not to go easy now and upgrade soonish. E.g. when going electric maybe go for the DF54 or (second hand) DF64g2, if you can afford it. When going for hand operated and you enjoy light roast, the 1zpresso ZP6 can’t be beaten (for med-dark K6 is great, especially for its price).

Another vote for DF64g2 if you can get it within budget.

You should go for DF64 gen 2. That’s the entry point of authentic electric grinder. All are waste under the range if you want perfection. And if you can’t bring up the budget then atleast go for baratza encore esp. Also you can buy manual grinder like Hario (Perfection in your budget).

# **Without philosophizing in the answer, you have two options: a handgrinder, or electric grinder.** — ## **🔹 Hand Grinders** ### **High-End Options:** - **1Zpresso K-Ultra** – External adjustment, versatile for both pourover & espresso. - **1Zpresso J-Max** – 8.8-micron steps, optimized for espresso but handles pourover. - **Kinu M47 Phoenix / Classic** – Precise & durable, great for both. - **Comandante C40 MK4** – Ideal for pourover; needs *Red Clix* for better espresso dialing. - **Timemore Chestnut S3** – Stepless adjustment, more suited for pourover. - **1Zpresso ZP6** – Produces ultra-clean grinds, excelling in filter brews. ### **Mid-Range Options:** - **1Zpresso JX-Pro** – Espresso-friendly with finer adjustments than JX. - **Timemore Chestnut C3 ESP** – Budget option with espresso-compatible burrs, decent for pourover. - **1Zpresso X-Pro** – Compact, external adjustment, slower but espresso-capable. — ## **⚡ Electric Grinders** ### **High-End Options:** - **Mahlkönig EK43** – The gold standard in specialty coffee shops. - **Weber EG-1** – Premium single-dose grinder for all brew methods. - **Lagom P100** – High-performance, SSP burr options for precision grinding. ### **Mid-Range / Prosumer Options:** - **DF64 Gen 2 / DF64P / DF64E** – Affordable single-dose grinders, great for both. - **Niche Zero** – Top-tier single-dose grinder for espresso & pourover. - **Eureka Mignon Specialita** – Stepless adjustment, solid for espresso & can handle pourover. - **Fellow Opus** – Budget-friendly, designed for both espresso & filter brewing. - **Baratza Vario+ / Sette 270** – Great entry-level grinders with micro-adjustments for espresso. - **Timemore Sculptor 078 / 064S** – New contenders with solid grind consistency. ### **Budget-Friendly Options:** - **Fellow Ode Gen 2** (Needs *SSP burrs* for espresso) – Excellent for pourover, but needs mods for espresso. - **Baratza Encore ESP** – Beginner-friendly with stepped adjustments. - **Eureka Mignon Crono** – Simple & effective for both espresso & filter. — 🔎 **Check reviews before buying**—grind quality & user experience vary. Preferences are subjective!

I have a DF64p and bought a regular DF64 to keep with my other machine at my parent’s house. If I buy a 1k+ grinder and I think it makes that much of difference I will 100% buy another one. I’m thinking of upgrading my machine first tho.

I have a DF64p and bought a regular DF64 to keep with my other machine at my parent’s house. If I buy a 1k+ grinder and I think it makes that much of difference I will 100% buy another one. I’m thinking of upgrading my machine first tho.

I love my ZP6. I also have a DF64ii, a Gevi, and an Ode 2. I rarely do batches as large as you do, but I usually gravitate to the ZP6. But the DF64ii is solid. I'm setting up a coffee station at work, and it'll be my go-to work grinder. My Gevi works really well when I use my v60 or Origami, but I still use the ZP6. I don't use my Ode very often.

You get what you pay for. if you buy df64 v2 from the OEM, you can get it for 34k with stock stainless steel burrs.

It’s a good conical grinder, I liked it. But ultimately, I went with the df64 with ssp mp burrs because I like high clarity filter coffee. Ended up getting a k6 for espresso.