Baratza - Sette Series

I always enjoy posting that my Baratza Sette 270 has ground coffee like a champ since the day I got it, low retention, a little loud yeah but it grinds for espresso and does filter coffee when it’s not dialed in for my espresso machine. Everyone always tells me online that it’s too loud but I don’t care about that. You can get the Sette 30 with the same burr set for a bit less.

There are many second hand machines available here in the uk. I’d look out for the Baratza more than the Sage if you’re looking to get into espresso.

They are both owned by Breville however the acquisition is fairly recent so your second hand model may be from before that. The Baratza has a solid reputation as an espresso grinder and is a newer model than the SGP (which is 10+ yo I believe). Reviews are pretty unanimous that it helps you dial in better.

Baratza is a workhorse. It is not a quiet workhorse but it is a good machine 

Profitec Go is a solid buy. You need to spend a decent amount of money on a grinder too. I've got a Baratza Sette 270wi which is great for workflow as it grinds into the portafilter and grinds to weight, but it's a bit plasticy and incredibly loud. Would probably get a Niche Zero grinder if I could turn back time.

My Baratza, ordered from Baratza, ground unevenly (dust, ground coffee, and biggish pieces) with a loud cracking noise at regular intervals (not just the usual burr grinding sound) from the git-go, and broke irreparably within a year -- as I drink coffee only two or three times a month, that would be more like a few weeks for most users. The on/off switch doesn't have a timer and if you fill the top -- if you put in more than a few tablespoons, actually-- and turn your back for a moment it will clog. As I put up with it for about a year, having no other option for grinding coffee, service was nonexistent. The years old Baratza this was supposed to be a replacement for had a timed switch (the same switch from the outside, and the little glitch of turning on until YOU turn it off wasn't mentioned in any review or Baratza's description), ground delightfully evenly at all settings, and never clogged despite my ex-husband -- the main coffee drinker-- never cleaning it and me only cleaning it (running rice or cleaning grains through it) when I thought of it, which wasn't often. I guess the gist is, be sure of what you're getting if you get a Baratza.

Baratza Sette 270Wi, I realy love this grinder. 5 years on, and it's still excellent. The scale is a significant plus

Baratza is the answer. I've had mine for over 20 years. I recently contacted the company to buy the little rubber feet that deteriorated on the bottom and they sent me the feet, some extra other parts, stickers and postcards. Years ago I contacted them to buy a few other normal wear and tear parts and they sent those free too. Buddy at work has one, they've sent him new circuit boards and gearboxes for free. Outstanding product and customer service you just don't find anymore.

I have a few as well. A Fellow Ode with the v2 burrs for pour over and drip. A Baratza Sette with the upgraded fine tuning ring for espresso. A Timemore Chesnut for work and travel.

If you're using one grinder for espresso and pour over, I'd stay away from Eureka. Their biggest weakness is the turning dial, which is small and doesn't give you an indication of how many times you've rotated it. Going back and forth between espresso and pour over/drip would be annoying and harder than necessary to dial in. Baratza grinders are workhorses, but they're mostly plastic and loud. To service most parts of the machine, you have to pry open the bottom, which can bend the plastic and potentially rip off plastic tabs, which is kind of annoying. They're a good entry level grinder for people who can't afford something better, but if you can spend more, you might want to. For espresso, Aeropress, and pour over coffee, I've been served well by a Timemore Sculptor 064s. It has low retention, a brushless motor, solid metal build quality, is easy to dial in between different grind sizes, sounds less annoying than my old Baratza, and I think it looks good (which is subjective). I can't speak to the Fellow Ode 2 + Niche Zero option, but people do love them. James used a Niche Zero as his go-to espresso grinder for years. It has conical burrs, which gives a more full bodied (thicker) espresso. I'm sure others will chime in.

In cup, Niche Zero is pretty similar, but as others have noted, out of budget, especially with the tariff nonsense rendering them especially unworthy. Baratza Sette 270 is noisy, plasticky, and janky. But excellent support from Baratza and the Etzinger burr gets you better texture and flavor (more clarity, sweetness, dramatically less ashy bitterness). Sometimes on sale just below USD$300. Baratza Encore ESP. Also an Etzinger burr, more liveable than the Sette, perhaps. I mean seriously, the Sette is noisy. Varia VS3 — good when they are good, but I guess QA got wobbly. I had one in a lab for a year, where people abused it 30-40 times a day without a hiccup. But some units were plagued by drifting grind dials which I agree would be infuriating. Stock burrs are decent in cup, maybe slightly cleaner than Niche/JMax. Good body, slow to grind. Excellent build.