Kukirin - Kirin S1 Pro

I recommend getting him something that can peak his interest in the hobby, like a KuKirin scooter. An M5 Pro might be suitable since it goes fast enough and has an adjustable stem. If you're looking for cheaper but functional, an L12 scooter will do just fine: https://m.alibaba.com/x/x9z8LPD?ck=pdp Do make sure to inflate the tires to 45psi when it arrives though.

Expensive without reason kukirin is the king

Dualtron 2000 euro kukirin is the half of this price , now the more Chinese companies go to scooters dualtron will disappear if the prices stay so high

I own both kukirin is very good with the latest scooter with quality you stay to behind to check them out

You can't make a reliable and durable scooter for very little money. Kukirin is a good example. They skimp on quality and reliability, not on marketing.

They guarantee Kukirin for half or a quarter as long. With normal brands, you can find scooters that have done 10,000 km and only cost two tyre changes. You don't have to keep it alive with constant repairs.

We constantly tell people to get brand-name scooters instead of knockoffs and parts-bins, but while for low-tier scooters this is often understood, mid- to high-tier scooters have the problem that brand-name stuff gets really expensive. This prompts a lot of people to get, say, Kukirins instead of Dualtrons. Our stance about those tends to be that they might be decent value for money, but only on the condition that the user can do maintenance and fixes. If nothing else, mid-tier generics and near-generics tend to be *somewhat* better built than [the *real* cheapies](https://reddit.com/r/ElectricScooters/comments/1gtbsr2/cheap_m365_knockoffs_currently_being_discounted/), so we don't feel so alarmed about them. There's not a lot more that we can do; markets have their trends, and the push toward the bottom has existed in every product line ever. That's how cheap products even exist at all, though of course there's almost always a compromise in quality. Some people get this and accept the tradeoff; some get it and decide for a higher quality scooter; others don't get it at all and then complain that their Kukirin has a bolt loose and they don't know how to screw it back in.

Just as long as you know the tradeoffs and are prepared to maintain and fix it yourself. We don't have a problem with people who understand this part of the bargain - I should know, as I'm one of them - we're just pissed at those who buy with no understanding of anything and often without having done a whit of research, then come here to complain that their parts-bin scooter needs some basic repair they don't know how to perform.

Actually kukirin customer service has started to break out of the norm.. And are becoming serious contenders in after sales customer service

no don't get this brand, try kukirin

Stay away from kukirin they have left me with a snapped scooter dont reply to emails now im stuck with zero transport to work and walking 7 miles a day to work cant afford to buy another..spend abit more and get a better brand

Dumb comment it snapped going 7 mile on flat ground https://preview.redd.it/k4cjg23iz7se1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cee3c80a5850f5e96813df6cb86c83c9e3e2d544

After 6 months utter junk

I have a friend who also got into scooters, they had a Kukrin product. 300 miles on the thing and we had to do several fixes to electrical components, concerns my friend had for the structural intergrity, and all of that. They got rid of the thing and moved to EUCs, but the lesson still stays. Oh, and the sub saw a Kukrin snap. That was fun. Although, I have heard of a Varla Pegasus folding clamp snapping, but warranty replacement with a better one and my own has held up fine in the 1,826 miles I’ve clocked on it. Personal experiences make things be seen in different perspectives. To me, they’re not exactly the highest quality and as it is a vehicle that can easily result in severe injury (seen those as well), I’m immediately skeptical.

Yeah definitely it's just that kukirins are allergic to rain and high pressure water so be careful with those and they should treat you well. Remember to wear proper safety gear when you get one