It’s a bit more expensive, ($1500 USD) but If u were interested in the Apollo Go or City, then look at the Nami Super Stellar. It’s 60lbs, reaches 38mph on turbo mode, has really good suspension, pretty good range as well. Pushing it even in turbo mode I’ve gotten around 25 miles out of 1 charge. I have 2k miles on mine since I got it in May of this year and it’s still doing good
Hmmm, not gonna lie, the closet I know with those specs, with decent water resistance is probably the Nami Super stellar. Only issue it’s about 10 lbs overweight. But pretty portable. And you can buy your own foldable handlebars.
The regular Stellar falls short of your preferred speed, but it’s only 5 lbs overweight.
Other than that, it’s gonna be pretty hard finding the perfect scooter for those specs.
Also, tire change speed usually comes with experience. At least you’re in control of that. I never paid for someone to change my scooter tire, only to blast it with air after I install it ($5 or less if I couldn’t do it myself). Mind you it’s my first tubeless setup.
If you want a quality/performance balance, then look at the Nami Super Stellar. It has a generic battery which is the only thing on your list it doesn't have. And maybe the price is like $100 over... Oh well. This scooter is worth the money. It is a very premium scooter. Almost entirely metal with the exception of the fenders, which is more than acceptable even for a $2500 scooter. It rides smooth, it's fast as hell with exceptional acceleration, and is overall just... Premium. It doesn't rattle, it doesn't make weird noises, it doesn't feel like it's going to fall apart while riding. Everything is well-built and solid. It's also very versatile, giving you the option to turn off the front motor, and ride in single motor mode. This is great if you're going on a long ride and want to save battery and don't need the most acceleration possible. Or the opposite, you can put it in turbo mode and get the most acceleration and top speed. I put 200 miles on this thing in a couple of weeks of ownership. I love thins thing.
If you care about having something that’s high quality and easy to repair, I would check out the Nami super stellar. I got mine about a month ago and I have 400 miles on it. I would have even more, but it rained for like 2 weeks straight so I wasn’t able to ride.
So I finally got my hands on this Super Stellar that I've been thinking about pulling the trigger on since mid March. There was so much research that was done in order to make sure I was getting the perfect scooter (for me.) Let me tell you... I did just that. After talking to other Nami owners through reddit and other groups, I kept getting the same two answers. Either I was told to pay the extra $400 to get the Klima, or to go for another scooter entirely. All because of the spring suspension and 9" tire combo, or that the "Klima is so much faster." I now know that clearly anyone who said that had never ridden a Super Stellar before. This is one of the smoothest scooters I have ridden despite the small tires. I will admit I have only ever owned a handful of NIU scooters from the KQi2 to the KQi3 Max. However, I have ridden a Klima before, and some other mid tier scooters like the L2 Max, Apollo Go, and the Ninebot Max G2. Although the Klima is "better" by definition, don't sell the super stellar short. For a scooter that is only 66lbs, this thing packs a hell of a punch. It's very powerful, it rides extremely smooth, and has a phenomenal range. Do NOT let the 9" tires or spring suspension deter you from choosing this scooter. This is the absolute perfect scooter for the person who has been riding a commuter style scooter for a year or two, and is looking for something that's still practical and portable, but carries the performance of a heavier, larger scooter. Alternatively, this is also an amazing first step into sport scooter territory offering tons of customization to allow yourself to grow into it. For someone who is riding a scooter with basic or no suspension and is looking to get their first dual motor scooter with a real premium riding experience, this is a top option. I just wanted to share my thoughts on this scooter as I'm absolutely in awe of how great this thing actually is, and that it deserves more attention than it gets. For those of you looking for something in this category I can HIGHLY recommend. Keep in mind I know there are scooters with similar performance for less money, but you wont get a premium quality scooter like you will with Nami. This scooter has the same build quality as the Klima in every way. Nami knows what they are doing and I personally think it's worth all $1,699 I spent. By the way, this is not sponsored in any way, I just wanted to share my honest opinion to those potentially looking for the same thing I was.
I don’t think I’ve seen any direct comparisons tbh. It’s really fast though, like the acceleration isn’t up to par with the Klima, but the thing rips. I never have thought “wow I really wish I had more power” specially in turbo mode. I completely understand being addicted to speed and acceleration and not wanted to downgrade but this thing is a little beast. Its a “super commuter” if you will. I came from a KQi3 Max so it makes it even more crazy than it already is. I’m loving every second of this scooter and I’m itiching to get it out any second I have the chance.
Yeah I’ve been trying to say that the 9” tires do not sacrifice ride quality. Because of the rubber dampeners it helps take out vibrations of any kind and the ride is incredibly smooth. This scooter is smoother than others with 10” tires. I think this scooter is a lot better than the Ausom L2 Max which has 10” tires. This scooter is also extremely stable and I don’t think it needs a steering damper. Even going downhill hitting 40mph it’s no problem for it at all. I understand there are “better” scooters for the money, but that’s really subjective. I’m not a stats chaser and I’m perfectly happy with the speed, power, and range this scooter has to offer. I get the benefits of the Nami quality with a really solid frame, extremely quick acceleration, and extraordinary customization for all the riding modes. I’m extremely happy with this scooter. I do have a 3/4 helmet, but I’m considering a full face. I don’t ride crazy though, I average about 25mph doing top speed pulls occasionally. I ride on the safe side as much as possible. What ended up causing your crashes?
I would not go fir gotrax, especially for $2000. You can do so much better for that amount of money. I have a Nami Super Stellar and with its 25Ah battery riding it moderatley, I’ve never ran the battery out after multiple rides without charge, or even one really long ride. I rode 28 miles in one go and I got home with 34% left on the battery riding moderately to even a little more aggressively. It has a top speed of 35mph, of which I almost never use because 30mph is fast enough and uses less battery. In my opinion this scooter is super versatile because it gives you the choice between balls to the walls performance, still with decent range. Or you can slow it down to 25-28mph and get way more range out of the thing. It was $1,599, so you’d be able to save a little cash too. The Nami Klima is the bigger brother for $2000. The thing about the Klima is that it’s more powerful, faster, and about 20lbs heavier, but still has the same 25Ah battery so range will be less than the Super Stellar. You can get the Klima Max with a 30Ah battery but that’s about $2400, so it’s a fair amount over your budget. I also can appreciate that Nami has tons of parts available on WyrdRyds website where you buy it from, and everything is insanely easy to replace. For reference I’ve ridden my super stellar over 250 miles and there isn’t even a hint of anything going wrong. Hope this helps!
I would HIGHLY suggest Nami. I just got the lower end model, the Super Stellar and it’s amazing. Built to just as high quality standards as the Burn E. I would go for the Klima/Klima Max, or the Burn-E2 Max.
Yeah I can’t find it for US market. But idk that ambient lighting isn’t really worth it. An L2 max dual motor not only has 2 motors but it’s also more performance for slightly more money. 529euro is about $620 and for roughly $725 you can get the dual motor L2 with like 2600W peak. After switching from a single to dual motor scooter it’s insane the difference in acceleration. For example, having two 500W motors is not the same as having one 1000W motor. The acceleration is more than double with two motors. With my Nami Super Stellar, the acceleration from 0-30mph in about 9 seconds. If I put it into single motor mode, it takes almost 23 seconds. With that being said I’d take the dual motor scooter for slightly more money than a single motor with cooler lights.
Yeah I thought speed wasn't going to be much for me as I wanted better acceleration. After owning a Nami Super Stellar, which is a mini Klima, I can see how/why people want to go 50-60mph. It makes a huge difference when you're on a really stable platform with really good suspension. You won't be phased going 40mph on the Klima because of how smooth and comfortable it is with the adjustable KKE hydraulic suspension. 40mph is definitely enough speed, and even with that being said, I rarely travel at my 35mph top speed just because it isn't necessary most of the time. It's not that its scary, these scooters are incredibly stable, even going downhill at 42mph. I would definitely go for the Klima, save yourself about 2k and you wont be disappointed. But personally I'd spend the extra \~$300 and go for the Klima Max, just so you can get that extra boost in range since your budget is 4k anyway. Also as batteries drain, you get less performance, so you'll get more performance for longer with the 30Ah battery, versus the 25Ah in the base model.
So I have not actually ridden the 300X. I owned the KQi3 Max which was the predecessor with no suspension. That wasn’t even uncomfortable or a bad scooter at all. It soaked up bumps better than I would have expected. If you air down the tires to 45psi opposed to 50, you get a few miles less in range, but a lot more comfort. I can only imagine adding wheels that are an inch bigger in diameter, and a front hydraulic fork suspension will make it that much better. And yes, Nami is one of the best riding scooters. The Klima is the “famous” one with its KKE hydraulic suspension. I will say though my super stellar even with springs and rubber dempening, it rides incredibly smooth. I love this scooter and I’d easily recommend it but it’s 66lbs.
I saw someone mention Nami, and I completely agree. I love my Nami, and I love not having to connect an app even just to record my trip, or the miles of the scooter. You can just use the app to set the scooter up, and then never use it again. However… With my old NIU scooter, there were features that you just wouldn’t be able to use without the app. For example, the most important feature (to me) that I think blows that it requires the app. The electronic locking.. I would be able to hold the power button on the scooter for 5 seconds and it would lock the scooter so if anyone tried to move it the E-brake would engage, and it would start beeping. I used this in conjunction with a physical lock. But without your phone, you wouldn’t be able to unlock the scooter again. Some other more useless features that maybe you might care about would be scooter mileage, trip miles, or a battery percentage. Most low-end commuters don’t tell you the percentage on the screen, just bars or dots representing 10-20%. So if you want to know the specific percent, you have to use the app. I don’t know how much you care about any of those features, but it’s worth mentioning.
Perfect Scooter does exist and it’s called the Nami Klima ! A Nami Stellar or Super Stellar sounds though like it is more up your alley as far as weight sizeetc! My spouse has the Super Stellar and it rides like an absolute dream! I have a Klima, but would love a Burn E 3. It’s like gliding on a cloud, you can literally ride it with similar physics and mechanics of skiing or snowboarding. Incredible piece of engineering! If you want speed and agility that’s super light I’d give the Apollo Go a Go! Probably the closest you will get!
Came here to say this! Yeah the Nami Stellar or Super Stellar are great options! My spouse rides along with me on my Klima and it keeps up just fine with it! It’s quick comfortable and noticeably more compact compared to the Klima!
I have no big complaints with my Nami. I'm not thrilled with how the regen breaking functions, but that feature that can be disabled and doesn't make a huge difference.
I'm also in Seattle and my first scooter, a Segway Max G2, would not cut it. When I was commuting downtown I had to plan my routes very carefully. A hill right by my house would cause it to stop and roll backward unless I put my foot down. That was rated 1000W peak.
With the NAMI I can just go right up the steepest hills downtown and keep up with car traffic. It will climb stuff so steep I can barely stand on it, and I'm 220lbs.
I used to plan every route with Google Maps using bike mode, and paid close attention to the slopes. What was most frustrating is that all around, cars are driving 30-35 in 25 zones, and on a moderate grade (for instance 25th Ave from 55th St to 75th St) my scooter was limited to about 14MPH in 22MPH Sport mode. It's not safe to ride around the parked cars in the right lane, and I had people passing me in the oncoming lane. It's a very unsafe situation. Being able to maintain 25 at least keeps them behind me.
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