NIU - KQi3 Max

I own the Max too; for my needs I would be fine with a smaller battery. The power is very good and my only complaint is the lack of suspension. Niu has added front suspension in new models but no rear suspension (likely because it requires more engineering rework and a new metal frame).

Ninebot Gmax1 or niu kqi3pro is your answer. If you can get the G2 or the kqi3max even better. That's all you really ever going to need

I was debating between same two. Was leaning towards Climber because of hills near me, and reported issues with throttle on the Kqi3 Max. Ended up getting a combination sale+Amazon offer deal to get the NIU 300x for around $750. And it's amazing, use it close to 8 miles total in my commute and haven't used more than 35% battery yet doing that. If you find a good deal it might be worth the reach. If not then I think Climber if you have hills at all in your daily rides.

The Climber is ideal for shorter hilly trips and does well in different weather conditions. The KQI3 Max is better for longer flat terrain trips in dry weather. Also, the 9.5” tubeless tires are superior to the 10” tubed ones. Both brands have equally bad customer service.

I can vouch for NIU. I have a Kqi3 Max with almost 2000 miles and no issues

NIU is one of the best scooter brands on the market. I’ve had my Kqi300 max and put 1300 miles on it zero issues.

Yeah go for the NIU KQi3 Max. It’s on sale for $600? And it’s likely the best performance you will get for that money

I have the KQi3 pro right now, and have a Max shipping to me at this moment because that $599 for the max. I’m excited for the extra speed. Try inflating your tires to 45psi, it makes the ride on sidewalks sooooo much better.

I’d go for he NIU KQi3 Max. The two main reasons I would suggest that is because one, the KQi3 Max gives you more speed and more range for much less (when on sale, which is always is.) Two, the KQi3 Max is a 48v scooter, this means that you will get more of the performance for much more of the battery life than any ninebot/segway. This also means that you will get closer to the maximum wattage output of your motor lower in that battery range which in my opinion is an underrated feature. This means when below 50% bettery your scooter will still feel quick and powerful. There is nothing wrong with the ninebot as those are bulletproof, I just think NIU doesn’t have that reputation yet being a bit newer to the market. You won’t regret the KQi3 Max, or any NIU scooter for that matter. My one suggestion is to purchase off of Amazon so long as the sale prices are the same because I have heard of people getting defective units and taking months to get a replacement directly from NIU. If you buy from Amazon you can easily return and buy a new one. This is very unlikely to happen, but it’s always better to err on the safe side, Amazon will be much easier to deal with. Also, you will still get the NIU manufacture warranty from them so if something does happen down the line you can still get it sorted out. Hope this helps!

My 450w kqi3 max climbs every hill in the very hilly city im in, and fast. If you have 1500w, you WILL use 1500, especially how sensitive those throttles are. It's okay to want speed and power, but big and powerful scooters will just have less finesse and be less convenient. You have to admit you just want that speed and power.

I weigh 90kg brother. I'd want suspension but more horsepower is optional. Also do mind, the kqi3 max is more of a premium commuter, and can do 900w peak. 450 is its rated sustained power. If you want a larger thing bc you are super tall or want better suspension or dont care 4 weight or just enjoy speed you do you! But no, my rear drive 450w gets me to and from work even, in snow, a good 5 km each day, with enough battery to do the trip 3-4 times.

im not suggesting someone buy MY scooter. I am saying 450w(an entry level amount you can get for 300EUR, despite my scooter being expensive) gets me up any hill I like, and that you dont need the 1500+ watt dual motor beasts to do that.

I have a Niu KQi3 Max which could be unlocked to go 35-38km/hr. I choose to go at 20-25km/hr which I find is a comfortable speed without risking my life on a wipeout.

As others mentioned, the NIU KQi3 Max currently on sale for $600, is by far the best you can get at that price.

I have the KQI3 Max, the extra for the bigger battery was worth EVERY penny

I have the niu kqi3 max and the only issue is no suspension, which neither have, so i guess im biased to the kqi3 max

I mean you’re not gonna find good hill performance at that price point, especially depending on weight. You should also really mention your way because there’s a big difference if you’re 120 pounds or 250. It’s just not really possible to get a dual motor scooter at under $600. Nothing good anyway. I’m a little bit surprised because if you look at actual reviews of that scooter on videos, it looks like it should handle hills that are approximately that steep. If you really wanna go through the headache, you could return it and try and exchange and see if that one will work, but it would be annoying to have to return it twice. I know the Segway ninebot G2 max is pretty decent and would handle a hill like that, but the price will vary depending if you’re finding it refurbished or on sale.

If you place your scooter on a chair, how freely can you move the motor by hand? Maybe if something’s wrong with the bearings and it’s not running smoothly that could maybe hint towards why there would be more resistance and a reason for the overheating code. And if you have aired up the tires if they’re very low pressure that could also contribute to it.

I did start on a NIU max but I upgraded quickly to a Mantis GT. I'm glad I did though.