ES2/ES4 (Legacy Model)

Good work, but to be honest that's definitely not how I shop. I've put in about 25,000 miles on electric scooters, and I've only owned two "name brands". Both were way back in the day with their earliest models (the Ninebot es2 was horrible). Everything else I've purchased would be considered non-name brands. My two main scooters right now are from AliExpress and I couldn't be happier. Sadly, options are going to change because of tariffs ... but I'll never buy anything from Ninebot, Apollo, etc. Much better bargains elsewhere if you know how to shop. I don't need to pay for a name.

If I were you, I would pay attention to small scooters weighing up to 14 kg, such as Ninebot ES, Xiaomi m365 or analogues. It is better to consider scooters with inflatable tires, they need to be monitored more, but the trips will be more comfortable. With your small weight, if you ride mainly on sidewalks and asphalt, then if there are inflatable wheels, there is no point in suspensions. With your small weight, most suspensions will not add much comfort, but the presence of a suspension in the scooter adds weight to it. Also pay attention to the dimensions, it will be inconvenient to bring a large scooter into the bus / subway. As a person who works physically, carrying heavy loads every day, wearing a scooter weighing even 24 kg is not a pleasure. I don't even recommend a scooter weighing 19 kg to you, it's not just hard, but it can lead to back injuries. If you don't work as a loader, then you won't really like carrying even 14 kg every day. I judge by the example of girls I know who are uncomfortable lifting a Ninebot es4 weighing 14.5 kg, but a xiaomi m365 weighing 12 kg is calmly lifted to the 3rd floor.

With your weight, almost any adult scooter is suitable for you. Given the short travel distance, scooters with small batteries are also suitable. I would consider Ninebot scooters, as they have more reliable electronics, and the mechanical parts are also quite reliable. For example, Ninebot scooters Es series (Es1, Es2, Es4), F series(F25, F35, F45), G30, G2 (used ones can be bought for $ 300, and this would be the best solution for the money), E2. Of all the scooters listed, the Es series has a folding mechanism, which makes it easier to store it leaning against the wall, placing it on the front wheel, and using a wall mount. Other scooters can also be stored in this way, but due to the design features, they will bulge strongly from the wall, and it is not very convenient to put them on 1 wheel. Xiaomi scooters also performed well, such as the m365, m365 pro, etc. Inexpensive kukirin scooters can also be considered, but they often have mechanical problems, and the electrics sometimes fail, although due to their mass production, spare parts for them are cheaper than for other scooters.

With your weight, almost any adult scooter is suitable for you. Given the short travel distance, scooters with small batteries are also suitable. I would consider Ninebot scooters, as they have more reliable electronics, and the mechanical parts are also quite reliable. For example, Ninebot scooters Es series (Es1, Es2, Es4), F series(F25, F35, F45), G30, G2 (used ones can be bought for $ 300, and this would be the best solution for the money), E2. Of all the scooters listed, the Es series has a folding mechanism, which makes it easier to store it leaning against the wall, placing it on the front wheel, and using a wall mount. Other scooters can also be stored in this way, but due to the design features, they will bulge strongly from the wall, and it is not very convenient to put them on 1 wheel. Xiaomi scooters also performed well, such as the m365, m365 pro, etc. Inexpensive kukirin scooters can also be considered, but they often have mechanical problems, and the electrics sometimes fail, although due to their mass production, spare parts for them are cheaper than for other scooters.

Unreliable, uncomfortable and a badly thought-out design in general. They were terrible even when they were new and time has done nothing to improve on that. I wouldn't suggest getting one even if it was free, and I'm not exaggerating for comedic effect.

> Ngl a lot of that sounds like copium. Copium for what? I'm not a Ninebot fanboy (I don't even *have* any Ninebots more recent than an old ES2, incidentally the worst scooter they ever made) and don't have a burning need to defend them. Feel free to hate them if you want; it's a strange hill to die on, but you do you. What I'm not getting is why you're being all butthurt about Ninebot scooters instead of just... not buying them. They're not for everyone, and in particular they're not for people looking to crack their skull open, so they're clearly not for you. We can acknowledge this without having to argue about it. > No one normal is going to strap an extra battery to their ninebot which will compromise its perceived safety. They're literally the ones people add battery to most often. You clearly haven't done a search about adding battery to M365 and G30 scooters.

I have the ES2 and the solid rubber tires suck. Uneven surfaces have made me fall several times. The range is pretty low, you can get a battery pack added for almost the price of the scooter lol and i have seen people saying the errors caused by the batteries make them inoperable. I been looking at the TurboAnt X7 Max i can get 2 for 800$ and has more range than the ES2

What do you recommend, the ninebot has 0 also and stupid all hard rubber tires that have made me fall on uneven surfaces

For that distance and weight the Xiaomi Mi 1S or Ninebot ES2 are solid budget picks that won't fall apart on you - both handle short commutes like a champ and you can usually snag them used for pretty cheap

honestly the ES4 is pretty dated at this point but for 100€ that's not terrible if it's in decent shape. Just make sure the battery hasn't completely degraded and check for any stem wobble issues since those were common on the older ninebots.

I have a Segway nine bot es4. Very basic scooter and is 5 years old. I get 30km/h on flat and around 16/17 going up Franklin bike path.

I have a segway ninebot es4 that I bought second hand for the same reason just before COVID. I have a car & license now so I don't use it but it seems to still be working fine. Claimed range is 45km but I don't know what it would get in the real world as it depends on terrain, hills etc. I'd probably put it on trade me/marketplace for $300-350.

I bought a old lime es4 for $50 that on this controller and dashboard has done over 1100 miles. I'd say that's the budget option that keeps living

It’s not a popular scooter or really recommended anymore but Segway ES1/2/3/4 E22/25 are the best most portable last mile scooters for taking on buses and trains or waymo and ubers and throwing them into the grocery cart to shop. They fold up very compactly and weigh around 26lbs. You can also add external battery to them although they become less reliable with the battery. I had an ES1 and put around 1500mi on it. I gifted it to my neighbor and they love it