Segway - MAX G2 / MAX G2E

This! Thank you for bringing up the Max G2. EZ recco no brainer

Ninebot MAX G2 best

Completely up to you, but as a G30 rider (when shit was cheap pre-covid) the lack of suspension and the short handlebars were such a pain. I just feel like the G2 is such a huge step up that it would be worth paying the extra. But again, it's your scooter and cash. Just giving my experience :)

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Just a mike to work shouldn’t affect the battery too much since it’s such a short distance. I ride last year on fresh snow and on frozen slush (so not sheer ice like freezing rain. A couple things, go slow, and go really really slow around corners. You might literally have to get off and turn the scooter. I found driving on fresh snow the best - same as with a car as lots of traction and nothing is packed down to icy snow. Dress super warm. Finally if you don’t have full face helmet, googles and/or a balaclava that warms your face is highly recommended. Those little snowflakes feel like bits of glass hitting your face and eyes lol

I just have a Segway max g2. Reliable. Good battery. Decent suspension. Has “traction control” which you can turn on via the app but not sure I have enough experience to have noticed a difference. G2 max is often on sale. I have about a 5km ride to work so no issues with the battery even in cold. Nice thing with the maxG2 is that I just have to carry the charging cable - and not the whole block as it’s built in. But I’ve never had an issue with having to charge at work since it’s such a short distance. I’m an older female and feel the cold so I wear snow pants and heated jacket too . Princess? Maybe. But being cold sucks and I don’t want the bulk of a thick winter coat.

Best bang for your buck for first scooter, high quality build so little maintenance required - check tires regularly, clean it up. Enough power for anything except steepest hills. YouTube how to ride scooter and avoid mistakes and good luck, i went from ninebot max g2 3k km to max g3 and it feels like my old scooter was a toy.

But what exactly are you asking? What kind of hill? How far to work and back? Is there a specific speed you want to get to going uphill? What grade of hill is it? How long does said hill last? Simple thought, if it's not too much of a hill, a ninebot max g2 might be a good choice. Sale prices these days are around $799. Great range and decently powerful as long as the hills aren't crazy.

meh, speed isn't everything. I'd rather have something reliable that I know is going to work every time I turn it on, and it's affected by things like rain. That said, Segways are extremely reliable, g30p is about $600 now, G2Max has been available recently for $799 and it adds suspension and little higher top speed as well as blinkers. The f2pro might hit that $500ish price point too.

Depends on the overall budget though. College students don't necessarily want to sent or have the money to spend on a higher end scooter, esp when there are decent dependable scooters that may not go 50mph with a range of 90 miles. College students are going to have issues of storage and theft as primary concerns. So spending over $1k for something that could easily grt stolen makes zero sense. You're really better of getting something that is cheaper and reliable and speed doesn't have to be king nor does everyone want speed to be king. Add that it has zero to do with masculinity as you're trying to make it put to be. You're not a little girl if you don't want to go 50mph+, you just want a quicker commute and do it safely. Some people have balance issues and the faster you go the more dangerous it becomes. So something like those entry/mid level segways are amazing options because they aren't made for speed but dependability. And no, it doesn't have to be a tradeoff, but often times is.

at what point do you think I'm the OP? My experience and a lot of peoples that for the money, the Segways are some of the most dependable on the market and aren't built for speed. Some people are going to really like that aspect of it. Probably esp a college student on a budget.

I agree. If you can utilize the E & N Trail route, that's the easiest and safest way. I have a Segway Ninebot G30P and for my needs, it's good. That being said, I don't have to do many steep inclines or travel that far (about 2km from house to work), and I live close to Country Club, so I don't have to go far for my basic needs. I see a lot more people riding e-scooters, so it's definitely becoming more popular. I swear I saw some rental e-scooters at one of the city rental things in the north end, so you could maybe go rent one and see how you like it first!

Well, my model is discontinued apparently lol! This looks like it's an upgraded version of mine: https://a.co/d/3au1EC2

I've been recently getting acquainted with our handlebar friendly friends the humble e-scooter! Thanks to Ed and Tim for letting me rip around and get the feel for two of the most popular entry level suspension e-scooters on the market. Here are my findings! Segway Ninebot MAX G2 Rider weight: 85kg Range (hilly areas): Top 50% - 13km Bottom 50% - 11km Total range - 24km (would go further on flat areas) Top speed - 36km/h (device) 33km/h (GPS) on flat with a little more to give, likely 40km/h max Average speed - 15km/h Elevation gain (top 50%) - 257m Elevation gain (bottom 50%) - 134m I honestly felt like my wrists were going to fall off. There is definitely a lot of pain in the wrists even after just 5km - taking the front splint out of 187s might help. Coming from electric unicycle obviously I am not used to having my hands do so much work while riding. I have also not made adjustments to the throttle position as this is not my hardware so that could help quite a bit. There's just barely enough power in the MAX G2 to get me up a substantial incline without overheating. That should go without saying considering the low nominal output power. On long inclines the speedometer flash red indicating overheat of battery or motor. I would have to stop frequently on long inclines in order to allow it to cool down. I ran the entire test in sport mode (top mode with acceleration assist unlocked in app) as I am not a lightweight rider. Inclines of 10-15° would result in a top speed of 14-17km/h at full battery, whereas a short incline of 20-25° reduced me to 4-7km/h. At inclines of 30° I was completely stopped even in sport mode. This isn't going to be what I'd consider commuter viable for anyone over 75kg - unless they live in dead flat suburbs. Pedestrians are quite a bit less friendly than with other PEVs. E-scooters definitely have more of a stigma attached to them already, which is sad. Some people are friendly however, not everyone was scowling. I see way more positivity or neutral attitudes from the public on the EUC. Electric skateboards are somewhere in the middle. Segway rate this e-scooter as being able to survive 20,000 km before major failure however every bump I go over and every misaligned paver makes me doubt that very much unless all of those kilometres were done on a perfectly laid road. I could not get the cruise control to work at all. I tried both modes - neither would engage. This could be due to custom firmware that the owner advised me about. If I could have engaged cruise control it would have taken away a lot of the wrist pain due to having to hold the throttle on the whole time. I was able to set the regenerative braking which automatically applies after letting off the throttle. I found the weak setting to be the most intuitive and safest. I found strong to be reasonably easy to get used to however due to the low power of the motor, I would not use the strong regenerative braking setting in hilly areas with heavy rider weight, as the regenerative braking introduces extra strain on the motor. As a heavier rider it might be better to leave regenerative braking off and coast instead, to allow the motor to cool down after long inclines. This is a shame because regenerative braking extends range. I love how the MAX G2 has a 3 amp charger built into the board itself and you only need to carry a clover style direct 240v power cable to charge it. I don't know how much extra weight this adds, however most people would be carrying the charger in their backpack anyway. There is also a DC barrel jack port for external power bricks. I prefer having less weight on my shoulders so this is an excellent design choice. Unfortunately I was unable to get the e-scooter to report that it is on charge/connected to mains power, neither in the app or on the physical screen on the stem. This was while using the inbuilt 3 amp charger and external 240v cable. This is a huge design oversight as every other PEV I've owned or ridden has a charging indicator somewhere on it or some way of letting the user know that the charging has commenced. It blows my mind Segway of all manufacturers would not have this simple indication. I wish the horn was a ringing bell sound not a beep sound. Pedestrians act more predictably when a sound is emitted similar to a bike bell. Sometimes they would not react to the beep at all. I tried riding forward stance and side stance. Both I found to be reasonably comfortable with little foot fatigue. Even the relatively short deck is ample for my height at 6'5 however my back foot was always on the rear guard not on the deck itself. While in side stance I would keep both feet on the flat of the deck. Braking feels more predictable and safe when in forward stance. Cornering feels more predictable and safe when in side stance. Toeside cornering is a piece of cake however heel side cornering is terrifying as a beginner which is strange because I had the complete opposite experience on electric skateboard. I was pleasantly surprised to find that shifting weight off of one foot to provide some respite was relatively easy and did not affect balance. I was able to shake the loose foot to provide some blood flow and rest. Again this may only be because I have experience riding EUC one footed, however having the handlebars must be a contributing factor. The suspension is very good and can handle going up and down 45° curbs without too much issue. I did find myself wanting for more suspension travel however coming from an EUC like the the S22 Pro+ that makes sense. I am now interested to know what the difference is between the hydraulics suspension on this MAX G2 versus the spring suspension on other escooters. Despite the suspension being so capable, every time I went up and down 45° curbs I did worry quite a bit about where the stem folds down. I think it's quite absurd to assume the manufacturers claim of 20,000 km before failure. One gripe I have is the fact that you cannot control the regenerative braking variably like you can on an electric skateboard. Basically if the throttle is off the computer controls how much regenerative braking to apply and your only option is to use the physical drum break to slow down further. As far as off-road goes I only took it on grass and very light gravel for short distances. I wouldn't dare take it anywhere else, as the stock tires do not have the tread for it, nor does the e-scooter have the power for it. I found it to be predictable and reasonably comfortable on grass, whereas gravel I would not corner at any speed over 10km/h. Generally speaking, I was pleased with the results of the MAX G2 considering a modest 36v system, 900w peak power / 450w nominal, and 550wh battery capacity. Very efficient, reasonably comfortable. However, if you weigh more than 75kg and intend to commute regularly in hilly areas, you need 1kw+ nominal motor power in my opinion. Note: the model I tested had a tuned controller, the stock controller would be even more lacking when it comes to climbing hills at a heavy rider weight. InMotion S1 Rider weight: 85kg Range (hilly areas): Top 50% - 22.5km Bottom 50% - estimated same as above or less Total range - 42.5km (would go further on flat areas) Top speed - 30km/h (device) 29km/h (GPS) on flat with nothing more to give (locked by firmware) Average speed - 15km/h Elevation gain (top 50%) - 268m Elevation gain (bottom 50%) - estimate same as above or less With a bigger 54v system and a 500w nominal power motor, the S1 takes off from the line a lot faster and with more urgency than the MAX G2. I expected the range would be a little more too, with 675wh battery capacity. The suspension system is also a little different and perhaps a little firmer than the MAX G2. I definitely feel more fatigue in the hands after short periods. I could not even finish the range test due to discomfort in the hands and wrist, I bowed out at 50%. I have a new appreciation for hands free PEVs! The power of the S1 is certainly excellent for commuting and effortlessly carries me up 10-15° inclines without much reduction in top speed, as I coasted up one such incline both in drive and sport mode with no problem. Eco mode does tend to suffer a little with hill climbing but not much. In drive mode I was able to ascend an incline of 20-25° and my top speed was only reduced to 13-15 km/h. I am definitely enjoying the slight bump up in power, whereas the MAX G2 felt a little too underpowered. Instead of user controlled indicators on the handlebars, the deck lighting indicates left and right depending on the lean angle of the S1. Not too good for letting those behind you know your intentions ahead of time, so I have to say I prefer the MAX G2 indicator system more. I am glad to report that the S1 has a simple physical ring bell on the handlebars which is my preferred way of letting pedestrians know I am approaching. Even though the deck space looks bigger on the S1 there is actually less usable real estate than the MAX G2 which is a problem for me being a taller rider. The stem latch on the deck also interfered with my rear foot position several times which was not an issue on the MAX G2. However the stem latch on the S1 is definitely more trustworthy when folded up and transporting by hand. Carving stability is a little more concerning and wobbly on the S1 due to the reduced deck space, particularly at speeds at or above 25km/h. Braking is definitely more aggressive and less predictable than the MAX G2. I feel like the S1 could definitely throw you over the front handlebars if you hit the brakes hard enough. This results in better emergency stopping lengths for the S1, however there is a trade-off in safety for the rider under normal conditions. The S1 applies both front drum and rear regenerative braking with the one brake lever. The throttle on the S1 is difficult to maintain a coasting speed without pushing the throttle down to maximum position. This is likely due to the increased power of the motor. Unfortunately remaining in sport or drive mode and trying to maintain lower speeds like 15 km/h is tricky due to the sensitivity of the throttle. I definitely found that the throttle was exceedingly twitchy in sport mode to the point of frustration. Having to ride with the throttle fully maxed out regardless of mode is a glaring oversight and definitely a cause for safety concern. Releasing the throttle however was smooth and predictable, which is important. For some reason, despite the extra power of the motors on the S1, I was not able to exceed 30km/h, which could be unlocked in the app or through some other firmware job. However, unlike the MAX G2 I was able to utilise the cruise control once I gained access to the settings in the InMotion app. The cruise control is wonderful on the S1 and is easy to engage simply by holding down the throttle as consistently as possible for a few seconds. It even engaged as low as 7km/h, however as the throttle is a bit twitchy I had trouble locking cruise control on at higher speeds. But at least it worked, and had me grateful to finally be able to rest my hand in the late stages of the test ride. Conclusions The S1 is definitely the pick for power and hill climbing ability for heavier riders as well as range capabilities, but the MAX G2 is the pick for safety and comfort on shorter rides. I would personally buy neither, but instead look for another e-scooter with the best aspects and attributes of both - possibly a Segway with more power or twin motors. InMotion need to sort out their twitchy throttle before I'd consider their e-scooters.

Segway max g2 even if you get it used or refurbished you won’t regret it

Based on your needs—4-mile flat commute, 245lb weight capacity, rain resistance, and a $1,000 budget—the NIU KQi 300X and Segway Max G2 stand out. The KQi 300X offers a powerful motor, excellent build quality, and IP55 water resistance, making it a solid choice. The Segway Max G2 is well-known for its durability, long range, and smooth ride, plus it has IPX5 water resistance, which is great for Seattle’s rain. Both handle heavier riders well, but the Segway Max G2 has a more minimalist design. If you prioritize power and performance, go with the KQi 300X. If you want reliability and rain resistance, the Segway Max G2 is your best bet.