
Segway
Ninebot Max G3
Durable hill-climber; heavy with limited range.

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I’d say you’re in a bit of a tough spot. Being right under $1000 really limits your options. Getting a solid 30 to 40 mph speed is not too difficult but other things like suspension battery and breaking system begin to suffer as things that get cheap out on. I personally would never get anything with a no brand battery. It would be LG or Samsung for me if I want anything that has a hope of being reliable. The suspension might not be the best, but if it functions, it’s not a big deal. The big thing I have problems with the mechanical disc brakes. Those mechanical brakes are extremely cheaply made and are a pain and I have to adjust and keep up with as the pads were out. You have to keep tightening the cable adjustment as the pads lose material. At a minimum I would try and get something with hydraulic brakes, which is a little bit tougher without getting close to 1300 or $1500. If you can afford to wait a little bit longer and save up, this scooter seems to be kind of at a sweet spot at the moment. I actually kind of bought one recently for a family member. But that was after trying, went out for a little bit at a local group ride. It feels pretty good although I did didn’t get to test out wobbles at high speed. It really seems to be a sweet spot for having a namebrand 25 amp power battery at 60v. The motor seems good quality with tubeless tires and the hydraulic brakes seems sufficient. The frame looks well built. And it uses KKE suspension, which is supposed to be a tier above what most scooters use at least in the past year or so. Kukurin it’s supposed to be decently reliable, but nothing crazy. They are generally focused on affordability, but that can sometimes mean certain corners cut and less premium features like removable plugs for the motors and better wiring that make easier maintenance in the future. To sum it up I hate to say it because it’s so easy to tell someone else to spend more money but $1000 gets you I think a little bit too close to what you currently have in terms of performance or quality. And I think if you get something there, there’s gonna be a lot of drawbacks in terms of build quality and a long-term reliability. I really hope that helps. Even something like the blade mini ultra can be a good option, depending on where you live. Because that has hydraulic brakes and a bigger higher voltage battery for not much more money. The only downside with that one is the use of tubes in the tires, but that may be a sacrifice needed to stay at a reasonable budget. https://www.voromotors.com/products/teverun-fighter-mini-pro-electric-scooter https://www.teverunusa.com/products/blade-mini-ultra
For your budget you’re much better off with the Teverun fighter mini pro. It’s about $1400 on Teverun USA. The issue with the boyueda scooter is there using absolute cheap crap batteries, using a very old style of frame. Not something reliable long-term. Just keep in mind they often lie about this top speed and the maximum range is usually a fantasy and typically you should expect about 50% of the advertised range depending on your weight and style. Although that applies to basically any scooter. The scooter I recommend is more realistic and what you get and it has a lot of features that make it easier to maintain overtime. There’s a lot of people who shill the boyueda online in Reddit. Keep in mind some of the people pushing those are getting a kick back from these stores on AliExpress or if they’re offering an Amazon coupon they’re likely getting a kickback from the company selling it on Amazon so just keep that in mind.
I mean, are you going up a lot of hills or are you much heavier than 150 pounds? Because that would give you an idea of the actual range that a scooter will get. Usually it’s close to 50 percent of the advertised max with mixed riding. Also, what’s your budget? If you can get up to 1400 I would recommend the fighter mini pro. It can do 40 mph has really good suspension and folding mechanism. Hydraulic brakes are very comfortable. And it can do between 25 and 40 miles of range depending on your weight and your exact speed. I’m a fairly heavy rider and I get a minimum of about 23 miles of range if I’m going a bit over 30 mph. So I think most average weight people would get around 30 to 45 miles of range.
Honestly, to me the perfect scooter right now is $1400 and it’s the Teverun fighter mini pro. In my opinion, it’s the best because 40 mph and around 30-40 miles of range at a good speed is sufficient for 95% of people. It has hydraulic brakes, which makes maintenance very easy. The folding mechanism is incredibly solid. The suspension is smooth and adjustable. Has 10 inch tubeless tires which means there are a lot of tire options available, including PMT. There are quick release connections for the motors, which makes maintenance and tire changes incredibly easy. Another thing that people don’t consider is both the acceleration and individual power level for each motor is independently adjustable either on the scooter itself or through the app. Normally, I don’t care for apps, but in this case, it makes it easy to change the settings, but is absolutely not required. Using the adjustment in app I was able to get a fairly low acceleration and medium top speed that was perfect for a family member who wanted a very specific feel. Far too many scooters are not very adjustable or have a very jerky acceleration that feels twitchy and uncomfortable. Basically it has every single upgrade and improvement that I wish I could have had on my Vsett 10+. Literally the only annoyance is that the handlebar grips are kind of crappy, but that was a very simple and very cheap $15 switch to some ergonomic grips that took about 10 minutes. The only thing that I have found that is comparable in some of these quality of life improvements is the hiley supra. I like that they’re doing stuff like tubeless split rims in order to make maintenance easier. Only downside for them is some of the cheaper models have non-branded batteries, which is a dealbreaker for me because I prefer Samsung batteries after dealing with a little bit more noticeable voltage sag, and less reliability with non-branded batteries. I live in the San Francisco, Bay Area and I’ve worked with a scooter shop before and in my experience 90% of battery issues were on scooters that did not have a Samsung or LG battery. Usually a damaged cell in a group caused a BMS issue or other weird power failure. Hope that helps.
Extra price is definitely worthwhile but if you can stretch your budget, just a tiny bit more to around $1400 if you use the code extra7 at Teverunusa . I would highly recommend the fighter mini pro. You get a good speed and range with a solid Samsung battery. And you get a ton of improvements to the look as well as practical things like the folding mechanism and removable plugs for the 10 inch tubeless tire motors. Makes maintenance a lot easier and I would highly recommend it if you can afford it. Definitely my favorite pic for this price point. Otherwise, if your budget is more fixed, I’d still recommend going for the DT2 over the L2.
Favorite option at the moment for about $1400 is the Teverun fighter mini pro. Can do about 40 mph, 20 to 40 miles of range. It’s got a lot of quality of life improvements with the removable plugs for the motors, tubeless tires and a rock, solid fully mechanism. Basically a lot of things that make it a very nice sweet spot of price for the quality that you get. I’m honestly probably gonna get another one soon after testing out one recently. There is a coupon code for 5% off if you are thinking about getting one. Fits right into your budget.
Unfortunately, SF has some pretty serious hills. I live in the Bay Area, but I’ve ride in SF a decent bit and you really want a good dual motor. Unfortunately that usually puts things closer to 1200 or $1400. It also depends on your weight and what sort of range you’re looking for. If you can bump your budget to $1400 I think you could get something that works really well and unlikely to leave you disappointed or stuck at 0% having to walk your scooter. Fighter mini pro is what I would recommend if you can. Rk9rides YouTube has a pretty good video on scooters at different price points and you might find something that fits in your budget. I’d recommend looking at video because you can usually see exactly what kind of performance and range you’re likely to get in real life. Because one thing to keep in mind is that usually depending on your weight and the actual speed, and if you ride in the hills, despite whatever a manufacturer claims as the max range, usually you’re likely to see about 50% of that as realistic in real life use.
I highly recommend the fighter mini pro. $1400 after discounts. Can do 40mph but does 30mph comfortably around 25-35miles of range and very comfortable suspension. Tubeless tires means flats are less of a problem. Very nice folding mechanism. Lots of adjustment to the speeds and acceleration using the app or screen as well.
Anything close to the G2 master will be able to get you up the majority of hills. If your budget is strict, but flexible, I’d recommend seeing if you can get something closer to the G3 pro. Or the Teverun fighter mini pro. Something like the ausom dt2 might also be a contender depending on availability in your country. I very much recommend staying away from Segway. Their part availability for repair leaves a lot to be desired even on their top end models. And I have not seen good things from their customer service. Honestly same thing with inmotion they are notorious for poor customer support with electric scooters and electric unicycles. The main recommendation if you’re between scooters is to focus on making sure you get hydraulic brakes and tubeless tires if possible Both of those things make maintenance and repair much simpler long-term.
I don’t think that scooter exists. The biggest sticking point is you want something a little bit faster but you want to stick to drum brakes. I definitely understand that since the drum brakes are usually much easier to adjust and don’t require much maintenance because they are sealed up. The only scooter that’s even close to that that I can think of is something like the Vsett 8 or Vsett apex. However, those go about 25 mph. It’s decently lightweight around 55 pounds. The biggest issue is that the vast majority of scooters have transferred over to disc brakes. If you’re getting a decent scooter that has NUTT or similar hydraulic brakes they’re honestly not as bad as you would think. They are much easier to adjust being hydraulic. And more reliable. Your past experiences have likely been with wire pulled mechanical disc brakes, which are honestly some of the cheapest and worst available and are a huge pain to adjust. I would look into something like Teverun fighter mini pro. Could occasionally handle two people on it and it has enough speed to where you could go 25 to 30 mph with decent range. It’s probably a little bit heavier than you expected, but you could most likely find something from them. That’s definitely lighter than some of the big 40 mph beasts that you might not want. Typically I’d say something between 50 to 65 pounds is a good sweet spot in terms of power to weight ratio. You can typically get a decent size battery and decent speed without it getting unwieldy or annoying to move around. Hopefully, that helps you down.
The fighter mini pro is definitely a lot more polished. The removal plugs for the motors make maintenance a lot easier. It also has tubeless 10 inch tires, which are much more durable and less prone to flat tires than the tubes tires on the mini ultra. Honestly, these days tubeless tires is basically essential and is a dealbreaker for me. I would lead towards the fighter mini pro or the blade GT 2 if at all possible. If you’re on a strict budget, the mini ultra is fine but having to deal with flat tires is really annoying, especially if you’re not particularly mechanically inclined.
Voro has some bad reviews, but honestly these days they seem pretty decent. I got a fighter mini pro from them and I had a small issue with the brake lever and they sent me brand new levers and a bleed kit within a week. And they responded to my request within a day and followed up a couple of times within that same day to make sure I got the correct part. Unfortunately, it looks like Teverun is raising their prices this year, but they do have a preowned model of what you’re looking for for around $1100. These actually seem to be pretty good because these are basically returns that they get at their Los Angeles warehouse that they examine for issues and a lot of times it’s a very basic part that needs to be replaced that got damaged in shipping or missed QC and they are able to sell them as preowned because they are open box but generally they should be Like a new unit. That’s gonna be your best option if your budget is not flexible. They also have a fighter mini lite for a similar price which might be a better option. https://www.teverunusa.com/collections/pre-owned-scooters https://www.teverunusa.com/collections/pre-owned-scooters
Gotrax it’s pretty awful when it comes to customers so I would avoid them at all costs if possible. There’s so many options out there and it’s hard to tell if you’re getting a good deal or not. I actually have the fighter mini pro. Two of them. I would highly recommend it because it basically meets all your needs and it’s very solid for the price. I really wouldn’t be too put out by street tires instead of off-road tires. I don’t know if you know this but the vast majority of off-road tires for electric scooters are pretty dog shit in terms of flat tires and quality control. It almost never makes sense to get off road tires unless the vast majority of your use is gonna be on gravel trails and stuff like that. If you want 11 inch tires, the blade GT 2 Is a solid option. And realistically, worst case you can always change the tires to off-road ones if you really wanna try it out. You also mentioned the 60 mile range of the scooter you were looking at which I have to tell you is an absolute joke. If you have never purchased a scooter, please be aware that all scooter manufacturers are being overly optimistic with the range estimates that they advertise. They’re not lying but you can usually only get the max range if it’s a 150 pound rider going 15 mph on flat road. That’s why with mixed speed usage with may be a heavier person. You can usually expect about 50% of the advertised maximum. Even the scooter I recommend is like that. I’m saying that just in case you have a specific trip planned so you can see if that’s a trip you can make knowing the realistic range.
Teverun fighter mini pro. Good power and range for its size and a bunch of quality of life improvements that make future maintenance easier. Big fan of it so far after testing it out more in depth. 10inch tubeless tires mean less flats.
Teverun fighter mini pro. Good power and range for its size and a bunch of quality of life improvements that make future maintenance easier. Big fan of it so far after testing it out more in depth. 10inch tubeless tires mean less flats. About $1400 during Black Friday sale. 40mph if needed and 20-40 miles of range. Good folding mechanism as well. Got a 5% off code as well.
I really like the Teverun fighter mini pro because its top speed of 40 mph is more than enough for 95% of people. The range is good. The suspension is good. The folding mechanism is solid. More importantly, it has quality of life improvements like quick release plugs for the motors as well as 10 inch tubeless tires that make changing a tire much simpler but also less likely because you don’t have to deal with flat tires from tubes nearly as often. It also has a lot of customization that you can do with the app that you can use to fine-tune the power and acceleration for each motor individually. This is great because you can adjust the power for different gears and get yourself the perfect top speed for different situations. It’s not super small, but it’s as compact as you can get given the power and range.
honestly if you like the look of it they make pretty good scooters and a big thing they have going for them as they do seem to be focusing on repairability and maintenance. I like that they focus on tubeless tires and split rims for the motors. This should make puncture is less likely but also easier to fix in case they do happen. The only other brand that I like about as much is teverun and their blade gt2 or the fighter mini pro depending on if you're looking for a 10 inch tire or 11 inch tire and if you're happy with 40 or 50 mph. I prefer them a little bit more because I prefer the solid motor. Because in all honesty if you have a tubeless tire it's not super difficult for me to swap them out when needed and I almost never have to fix a flat tire with a tubeless set up so it doesn't become as necessary to have a split rim. And because I'm heavier I prefer having a solid rim on the motor which is going to make it a bit more durable.
this is gonna be highly dependent on where you live typically if you live in a state where a lot of people are using scooters you will find that the usual attitude from police is that as long as you are obeying the traffic laws and keeping two reasonable speeds that the cops don't care. In many places scooters are still in a somewhat great area especially if you're going around 35 mph for residential streets and you're going 15 to 25 mph if you're in the bike lane. segway is funny enough frequently recommended and also recommended against because they are mainstream. They are built solidly and are a decent price. However the parts supply for them can be somewhat frustrating and typically the price of performance is not the best compared to other options. For $2000 I would recommend looking at the teverun fighter mini pro 2.0. Especially considering your age it's got the perfect amount of speed without being too heavy and more than enough range. It's built well and based on the original fighter mini pro which was a solid platform with essentially an upgraded battery and improved electronics. segway for that price doesn't have nearly as good specifications battery or power wise. hiley also has some pretty good options like the tiger King. There are a decent option as well because of their focus on the tubeless split rim for their motors which makes maintenance and repair a bit easier. Just keep in mind scooters definitely still require maintenance like checking your brakes and checking over bolts for tightness. And you will eventually have to learn how to repair a flat or change a tire. Because even if you live in a major city you're not guaranteed to find a repair shop that will be willing to work on your specific scooter. And typically if there is one it can be pretty expensive to do something basic like a tire change because of the tools that you need and effort it takes to fix stuff on a scooter.
keep in mind almost anything that goes beyond 25 mph and ways I think over 60 or 70 pounds is gonna technically be not allowed. But realistically as long as you're not actually going unreasonable speed you should be fine. G2 is a perfectly fine option if you don't have any crazy hills and you don't want to go above 20 mph. The fighter mini pro that I mentioned will just be more comfortable and get you more range if you limit yourself too 20 mph. I am absolutely positive that if you stay going that speed the cops are not gonna care if you can go faster than that.
I would definitely recommend the fighter mini pro. With the black Friday coupon it’s about $1400 right now. From Teverun USA. Especially at your weight you definitely need something dual motor and tubeless tires. Tubeless tire tires really helps to avoid pinch flats, which is more common if you’re a heavier user. In my experience, you can still get between 20 and 30 miles of a minimum range depending on your speed. I know it’s it’s not always great to be at the upper end of your budget but in my experience dropping down to around $1100 to get something like the ausom dr2 pro is not necessarily worth what you save. There are some fairly big compromises. In my experience about $1400 is a very good sweet spot for dual motor scooters.
Yeah, unfortunately, most dual motors are designed to go closer to 40 mph which usually pushes the weight closer to 70 pounds. Unfortunately, I think the battery tech just isn’t there in order to shave the weight down that much. The only thing I can think of it anywhere close is maybe something like the Emove cruiser V2. I think by focusing on a single motor with a bigger battery makes sense. So I think they could probably get it done by shrinking the frame a bit and going for a smaller battery. I think the closest is going to be something like the Teverun fighter mini. Still a bit more weight, but I think the extra speed and battery size are worthwhile. I have always found about 75lbs to be about the maximum weight that you get the best performance and range per pound The closest thing is really the Vsett 8 at right around 55 pounds. And that goes about 25 mph but with a solid tire. So honestly, I just don’t think it’s physically possible to have something that can go that speed without having a big enough battery to give you more than 10 miles of range and enough power that it doesn’t take you a mile to get to top speed.
Honestly nanrobot they have such a bad reputation for design flaws and for having horrible warranty support. I know numerous people who have had to deal with electrical gremlins and defective motors, and given the runaround when it came to trying to get a replacement part. Right now ausom has some good offerings in that price range. Although I slightly prefer Teverun. Something like the fighter mini I think would probably serve you better and be more reliable. Although it really depends on what you’re able to get at what price point where you live.
Honestly, the biggest thing is going to be the shop that you purchased from in terms of warranty support and source for parts. It’s very hard to have confidence that they’re gonna be around to still be able to provide parts at a reasonable price. Teverun seems like a solid option even if the shop you buy it from is not the best because luckily almost every part seems readily available at a good price from AliExpress. So you have options. 7620r seems pretty great although getting the later version seems better, especially if you need to deal with the steering dampener. Inmotion, I would only not recommend because I’ve seen their terrible customer support on their electric unicycle side of the business. They also seem to be discontinuing in someway the RS so I will be confident for parts. RX7 on paper seems like a great scooter for the price, but I’ve also seen pretty terrible customer support from roadrunner and I know a few different scooter shops where I live and they seem to suffer a lot from electrical gremlins. Teverun I wouldn’t say it’s perfect, and there may be some bias because they typically see the more higher end versions. But the friends that I know at shops have those as their personal ride and don’t really seem to have as many mysterious issues if that makes sense. Like with randomly dying controllers or motors with failing hall sensors. Stuff that doesn’t have a very clear physical damage component to it. Lastly, I think if you search on this sub, I think there is very recently someone who purchased that same scooter from Wilson’s, who didn’t have the best experience out of the box, but the shop did get him a replacement with an a decently reasonable time. So although it’s a crummy situation to be in at the very least, I think that’s the sort of experience you would want if you have issues. If you’re in New York, maybe you would want to consider these guys since they seem more local and I have heard decent things about them online. Although I always recommend doing your own research. https://www.speedwayridersnyc.com/shop/fighter-supreme-7260r-electric-scooter/?srsltid=AfmBOooXYrjru0kYSmHevL7m4C0PzwPrjMb61AabsevgXnvHJWmH3qRU
Generally, I prefer Teverun and that one is a decent option. I think the only thing holding it back is that it does use tubes which means it could be somewhat annoying to do a tire or tube change. The motor cable also doesn’t have a quick disconnect so it’s very similar to a Vsett 10+ when you want to do anything with the motors, which can be kind of frustrating. Although I don’t like the look of the teewing. It sucks cause $1000 is a really bad price point for a scooter. I hate to tell people to spend more money but around the $1100 mark you’re making a lot of compromises with build quality or quality of life improvements like quick disconnects for the motors.
How much is that? Does look pretty cool and I do like that. It has the quick release plugs for the motors. Only thing I’m not a fan of is those folding latches with the circular latch. I’m just such a big fan of the folding latch that’s used by a Teverun
I own the 60V 25Ah Fighter Mini Pro (late 2024 with the Bosch engines) and a relative of mine has a Blade mini pro 2025 on which he installed hydraulic brakes (he did go with the pro for the lighter weight). I'd say it depends on pricing, mostly ? With the Fighter Mini you definitely get a more polished device, whether you consider the better water resistance (IPX6 vs IPX4), better suspension system, Bosch engines, more in-app customization (each of the 3 programmable speed profiles can be fully customized on the fighter mini vs the blade mini which relies a lot on global/hardcoded values), and tubeless tires. But the Blade Mini Ultra definitely packs a lot of value if you can pick it up at the right price and it's not slouch. And the remote keyfob (exclusive to this series so far) is a hilarious way of skirting police checks if you're in the EU.
Triggers should be plug and play between all Teverun models, I myself bought the 2025 thumb throttle on my Fighter Mini.
My Teverun has adjustable suspension, it comes loose but can be stiffened up.
I tested both and felt very comfortable on each of them. I’m not an expert, but my impression was that the Forever’s handlebar felt a little loose. It also feels lower compared to the Fighter, which I think has a slightly higher and wider handlebar (at least from my perspective). As for the suspension, the Fighter’s feels very soft and flexible. I’m not sure if that’s a pro or a con—personally, when riding, I tend to prefer a firmer suspension.
If you hit up Voro Motors, I got offered a much better price than that. I ended up going with the mini fighter pro instead after test driving them.
I like the inmotion RS Jet and Midnight when I test drove them. I feel like the Apollo had a better durability. I should have probably spent more time on them. Me and the misses went with Teverun Mini Pros(my 4th choice). We wanted a great scooter at lower speeds, hill climber, and light. The Teverun Fighter Supreme was an amazing tank. It was too heavy for putting in the truck without a ramp. The Daytona would have been an awesome off-road scooter. Another tank with all kinds of bells and whistles. I have a Segway, mini-motors, and a Inokim. So test drive, test drive, test drive.
Sounds like you already know what you want with the Fighter mini pro tbh. At 240lbs with that gear and those grades, you're gonna want the dual motors anyway. The Apollo Go probably feels underpowered on those 12-15% climbs right? I'd say if you're planning to use it that much and hand it down later, the extra few hundred is worth it for something that won't leave you stranded halfway up a hill

Segway
Ninebot Max G3
Durable hill-climber; heavy with limited range.

Ausom
DT2 Pro
Budget speed demon with hydraulic brakes; slow charging.

Inmotion
Climber
Hill climbing champ, great value, but lacks suspension.

Segway
Ninebot KickScooter MAX G30P
Durable, mod-friendly value, but lacks suspension; tire changes hard.

Segway
Ninebot MAX G30LP
Durable, budget commuter, but slow on inclines and no suspension.

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