
Segway
Ninebot Max G3
Hill climbing beast, durable, but heavy with limited range.

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Mine is a Blade GT+II in a fighter mini pro package. Got the FMP new loved it just was under powered so I put new blade GTII motors and controllers and swapped the display for the fighter 11. So now it looks like a fighter mini pro but rides like a Blade GTII its actually like 10lbs light. Let's hear it for the V5 Teveruns what an improvement and definitely price wise in the top scooter brands made today https://preview.redd.it/ip5f2xifklrg1.jpeg?width=1848&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f15ab8ea2f7882f3c25ab0f835968e7f61d64e6
Nice great choice for a first its top quality easy to upgrade and work on. I waisted a lot of money buying cheaper scooters should have gone with the teverun from the start. What's nice is most of the parts fit from across models so there's a ton of stuff you can do. But first get a decent full face helmet and a good pair of motocross gloves. And take your time till your used to it. https://preview.redd.it/h5ss9nnj8v5g1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e20af1e7f1494d0eddc3847de5902f616ede9aae I probably have spent $5k buying and modding cheaper scooters should have gone this route to begin with. Mine is a fighter mini pro soon to have the Blade GT2 motors and controllers installed pushing it to 53mph
My first scooter i had a no suspension isinwheels had seen a lot of scooters around and wanted one. Two weeks later going down a hill hit a patch of leaves that was covering a 5 or 6 inch deep pot hole sending flying over the handlbars like superman at like 25mph sucked lol. I sold that a few weeks later and picked up something with a decent suspension. The non visible shocks are honestly usually just a block of rubber wrapped around a bolt pretty much usless dont even like the ones dualtron uses. I dont know about the suspension on the Apollo but they are really excellent quality scooters. When I got my latest I was trying to decide between the 60v phantom I think it was and my Teverun it was neck and neck willsons bikes just had better deals on the teveruns then the Apollo's. You should check there site out best aftersales service I ever got from a scooter company. The sell Apollo that would be my choice Apollo has some pretty cool tech that only they use. https://preview.redd.it/4vwtagj1p6jg1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=142387ccee38c2f5f8d972e34becc339a4d2efdf Love my scooter dont know your budget but they have the blade Q and ultra for really good deals too. The KKE adjustable damping shocks make all the difference in the world had air shocks on my last build these are twice as good at 210lbs no bottoming not even close
If support and aftermarket parts are a priority, teverun and in motion are definitely better bets than Segway way more community backing, easier to source tires brakes throttles. Teverun 7260R is solid, In motion RS has the best reliability track record. Roadrunner is fun but not as mature in parts availability.
I think nowadays best bang for your buck is a hiley. They have several models all great options buddy. Get a steering damper if ur going to go over 35mph at any point or otherwise There's a lot of history and thought process behind the evolving scooter market to arrive at today's best options, and honestly most of the best scooters will just cost an unreasonable amount of money more than a hiley for not much noticeable difference. But I'll tell u straight 250lbs and hills? U want at least dual motor 1kw each with dual suspension, which u might end up beefing up for stiffer versions yourself. Youll probably get 1500lb shocks from the manufacturer and may find that's suitable for you But if you're going all out and potentially want a seat kit then you could check out willmason, hooga Daytona, 7260r, roadrunner, nami, or something similar from a reputable manufacturer Im not the kind of mainstream guy to advise segway. I dont like their designs, for very practical reasons, the least of which is specs, in example: the front fender on their 50mph model i dont think has room for knobbier tires, so you're kind of limited. Nor do I see a steering damper on that model, which is frankly the biggest deal breaker since its a safety hazard at that point. As for their zt3 model its single motor, and having 1500miles on an emove cruiser with similar power specs I can tell you at 250lbs you'll never hit their advertised speed, especially uphill and on a chilly day. You'll be flooring it for about 16mph. Segway has never been nor are they now a top pioneer in the escooter industry. I suggest more! Goodluck !
Their escooters are horrible, for every reason, as with any base tier scooter. Base tier models are involved in the majority of escooter accidents. These statistics are miaapplied by certain country's legislators under the guise of safety to regulate the population to strictly the very same base tier models. It's counterintuitive and oppressive. Here they've simply thrown the word McLaren onto a base tier model and suggested it's worth more than $150, when it isn't. Reasons why these scooters aren't worth more than $150: 1. Puny handlebars for least possible steering leverage 2. No suspension so your battery and knees feel every bump = fire hazard and health hazard 3. 15mph max speed is simply to market towards their UK, law-abiding citizenry- hardly as fast as a bike, and with 900watt peak power that's simply embarrassingly slow- but with no suspension you wouldn't even safely go over 10mph. 4. Only 1 brake lever for no immediate stopping power in the event of brake failure 5. 36v is quite low voltage, the battery sag under load by 50% charge will be immense. 6. 12ah battery capacity means 36v x 12ah = 430wh. So juicing the throttle will last for 430watt ÷ 950 = less than .5, so less than half an hour. At 15mph that's a total theoretical real world range of at most 7.5miles, which is more likely to be 5miles and then you're crawling at 5mph, and that's with no inclines, wind, or chilly temps, and moderate rider weight. 7. Traditional riding stance is to rock your body weight when accelerating vs braking, to safely mitigate and offset your higher center of gravity. They've disallowed for this with their design, showing how little they actually ride scooters themselves. Especially crucial for hard braking to prevent less body weight on the steering column. All I can see is that they don't know much about escooters. 8. Front drum brake isn't ideal. Disc brakes are more easily serviced, inspected, and in my opinion look better. The only thing they did right was use tubeless tires. Everything else is awful, simply the very least they could have produced for a market which is way ahead of their current offerings. It's so cringe. These scooters are a good example of good marketing geared towards selling complete trash, with a totally fabricated battery range listed on their page. I wouldnt believe anything they have to say based on their math skills alone.
It's the polar opposite of your new 7260r. Me personally id be hard pressed between the hooga daytona and the 7260r. I like hooga daytona's controller on the stem, the design a bit better. I hear its super stable. But with 5kw less peak power is pretty drastic. Luckily for me I'm happy with what I have so I don't need any upgrades, but I'm sure your 7260r will keep you happy for a long time. Have you checked out maxfun, if you're in the market for something smaller and impressive?
Mate you haven't listed a decent brand in your entire post Have you never heard of Roadrunner, Teverun, Nami, or Maxfun? Hooga daytona? Willmason?
X Ltd for sure! These other models are just trying to be anything like it but aren’t even close. Teverun is way better than Emove. But that scooter is tough to work on too. Wire harness has high failure rate on Teverun and is no fun to swap. 7260r just doesn’t ride right in my opinion and I’d be careful with the flat pack. Those cells aren’t as tried and true as traditional.
They don't ride it at 70mph for 45 miles. It's a city loop that they go up to reasonable speeds for. So for OP's use case, realistic range going to be same as ESG's test, 45 miles. Fortunately that's exactly the range OP requested.
If weight is not an Issue op id take u/suckemoff advice my scooter is 220lbs but has stupendous range other people with my scooter said they got 110 miles of range on it, if weight is an issue the teverun fighter supreme ultra or 7260r are your next best bet, hooga Daytona as well but less range than the both.

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