VSETT - 8+

Having had quite a range of scooters and tire sizes I can say that being "nimble" isn't as much the size as it is the width. A Segway g30 is 10 inch but not super wide (can never remember the exact width) and feels really nimble. It's actually a really nice city scooter if you don't need to go too fast or climb major hills. Also sucks that it doesn't have suspension. A vsett 8 is an 8.5 inch (again, can't remember width) and is also pretty nimble, but the solid rear tire is a major pain, if you clip a rock or height variation in the road/sidewalk it will fully shift the rear tire out and feels pretty dicey. The vsett 8 was a pretty decent scooter, it got the job done even though that solid rear tire almost got me a couple times. A punk rider pro is 10 inch with 3 inch width and it starts to feel a lot less nimble. The fact that it's also longer and weights closer to 30kgs also adds to the lack of nimbleness, but it's way more stable and I was actually quite happy doing 50km/h on it. Right sidewalks were not my friend though, the road felt much better. This was a great scooter, not great suspension (rubber cartridges) but heaps of fun, only got rid of it so I could go the speed limit on the road. My current Teverun Fighter 11 is 11 inch with 4 inch width and it's not all that nimble, it's much tougher to lean and kinda unweildly on the sidewalk. Weighing closer to the 40kg mark and being even longer the punk also doesn't help for nimbleness (and neither does the steering damper) but on the road, going even 70km/h is a breeze (top speed is 85km/h but still need to find a road that is nice and quiet to test that out). So far loving the Teverun, just need to get more familiar with the handling on this beast. Tldr: tire size (height) is definitely not the only factor when looking for a nimble city scooter. (Or any scooter for that matter).

I was in the same boat until I bought my bike. Well first I got a Vsett 8, which taught me i dont NEED a car. Then i got my motorcycle license and have never looked back. Costs me roughly 300 a month and is my favorite thing to do ever

Yeah the Teverun blade GT 2 is solid but that extra $400 hurts when you're already stretching budget lol. Have you looked at the Vsett 8? Think it's right around your price range and the range is pretty decent, plus the build quality is way better than most stuff in that bracket

I’ve had my vsett 8 since 2021 without any repairs or issues.

It’s a pretty decent scooter since it’s the Vsett 8. I believe the other branding is simply what they use for certain countries/regions. It’s definitely repairable but keep in mind that that rear tire is a bitch and a half to replace. It’s a huge pain because you have to pull the tire off the rim which is super difficult despite it being a split rim. Because the tire is on the same side as the motor stator you basically have to take the motor apart, and you have to be extremely careful not to damage the delicate magnets or coils.

Yeah, unfortunately, most dual motors are designed to go closer to 40 mph which usually pushes the weight closer to 70 pounds. Unfortunately, I think the battery tech just isn’t there in order to shave the weight down that much. The only thing I can think of it anywhere close is maybe something like the Emove cruiser V2. I think by focusing on a single motor with a bigger battery makes sense. So I think they could probably get it done by shrinking the frame a bit and going for a smaller battery. I think the closest is going to be something like the Teverun fighter mini. Still a bit more weight, but I think the extra speed and battery size are worthwhile. I have always found about 75lbs to be about the maximum weight that you get the best performance and range per pound The closest thing is really the Vsett 8 at right around 55 pounds. And that goes about 25 mph but with a solid tire. So honestly, I just don’t think it’s physically possible to have something that can go that speed without having a big enough battery to give you more than 10 miles of range and enough power that it doesn’t take you a mile to get to top speed.

I don’t think that scooter exists. The biggest sticking point is you want something a little bit faster but you want to stick to drum brakes. I definitely understand that since the drum brakes are usually much easier to adjust and don’t require much maintenance because they are sealed up. The only scooter that’s even close to that that I can think of is something like the Vsett 8 or Vsett apex. However, those go about 25 mph. It’s decently lightweight around 55 pounds. The biggest issue is that the vast majority of scooters have transferred over to disc brakes. If you’re getting a decent scooter that has NUTT or similar hydraulic brakes they’re honestly not as bad as you would think. They are much easier to adjust being hydraulic. And more reliable. Your past experiences have likely been with wire pulled mechanical disc brakes, which are honestly some of the cheapest and worst available and are a huge pain to adjust. I would look into something like Teverun fighter mini pro. Could occasionally handle two people on it and it has enough speed to where you could go 25 to 30 mph with decent range. It’s probably a little bit heavier than you expected, but you could most likely find something from them. That’s definitely lighter than some of the big 40 mph beasts that you might not want. Typically I’d say something between 50 to 65 pounds is a good sweet spot in terms of power to weight ratio. You can typically get a decent size battery and decent speed without it getting unwieldy or annoying to move around. Hopefully, that helps you down.

I’m not sure if the range is particularly bad given the size and power. But typically you should expect around 50% of the advertised range to be a realistic estimate depending on your speed and weight. The vast majority of advertised range estimates are produced with a 150 pound user going about 15 mph on flat Road. So if you’re a lot heavier than that or going uphill, the range does decrease a fair bit. If you’ve seen people get 25 miles of range they’re almost certainly not doing that at full 35 + miles per hour. Especially not on a 52 V battery. You do have to slow down to about 20 or 25 mph. If you wanna get close to 25 miles of range. If you can afford $1600 I’d recommend the Teverun blade GT 2. It’s a 26ah battery but it’s 60V which gives it a fairly bigger WH size compared to a 52v battery. Remember the WH is always the voltage multiplied by the amp hours. I would really recommend trying to stretch your budget or saving up for longer if possible. 1200 is sort of in that sweet spot where scooter are a bit more expensive than a lot of the cheaper Segway models, but you really do have a few compromises in battery size and build quality in some aspects. In my opinion $1500-$1600 is the sweet spot at the moment where you get the most performance and range for what you spend. And once you start spending more than that, you’re really getting more power and range at the expense of weight.

I think you meant to reply to the other guy, but I know what you mean. If it’s possible for people to budget, I typically recommend sticking to a specific point where you get the most value and you end up not really needing to upgrade for several years. Funnily enough I actually have a Vsett 8. Very interesting option at the time because it was 25 mph. It was just a little bit faster than a lot of the cheap options available. The drum brakes were pretty good and had decent suspension. The folding mechanism is, I think the only downside. The main downside is that rear tire is nice for avoiding flats, but it’s honestly almost impossible to change without a press. Very easy to damage the exposed motor when you’re trying to change it. Mechanic I seen on YouTube is normally very good at all sorts of scooter repairs even on the super difficult ones also had a tough time and damaged the motor when they were trying to change it. So honestly, there are better options nowadays.

Honestly, I think your requirements are simply impossible. Keep in mind most realistic range estimates are going to be about 50% of the advertised range by the company. This is very difficult to get 10 or even 20 miles of range if you’re trying to keep it under 30 pounds. The other thing is typically with something that lightweight you’re gonna be getting solid tires or very small tires. Something like that honestly is not gonna be very comfortable for going 10 miles let alone 20. Most of those I would say would be 5 miles max. I commute every day 10 miles and even on a 70 pound scooter with 10 inch tires that can still be somewhat tiring. I think the absolute minimum would be something like the Vsett 8. It’s a nice option because it’s about 50 pounds but it folds up very easily and it’s honestly pretty easy to carry. And you get about 25 mph and maybe 10 to 20 miles of range at your weight. I hope it helps.

Not sure about a 10/10, but im loving my Vsett 8. I've had it for 2 years and change, and its going great. I've ridden the hell out of it, really abused it. Wheelies (got pretty good actually), jumping curbs, going on trails, everything. Ridden with 2 people. I lowsided it once, and had a few little crashes doing wheelies or whatnot, scooter was fine. My brother dropped it, cracked the brake lever, $10 later from Ali and we're back. I've ridden it in the pouring rain, and even with having left the charging port open a few times, perfectly fine. Suspension is excellent, speeds are good, and its a nice big deck with wide handlebars. I have 2 complaints: 1. Massive pain to change rear (solid) tire, its very possible i got the wrong size (from eBay to save a few bucks, might've been a drop too small) but in my own stupidity and desperation i stripped a few motor screw threads, and just bought a new motor with a tire preinstalled for not much more, far easier to install 2. I dont have great charging habits, and as of a few months ago/maybe a year, instead of charging to 54v, its only 50-51v. Might me the BMS, not sure. top speed is now reduced from 24-25Mph, to 21-22. The battery level plays a huge role in top speed. I didnt want an ultrareliable scooter, but it went 15-19mph, with horrible suspension, and tiny handlebars, i wanted a scooter i'll enjoy. For the $750 I paid, I most definiatley got my moneys worth. Edit: Range is okay, ive done 10-15mi trips on speed 3, the most aggressive. Not sure now with the battery issue, but I'm confident in 10+ miles top speed.

These are the common issues of the 1st generation generic scooters. I have 3000+ miles on my vsett8 and it still shreds 🤙look into vsett scooters.

I have a connective tissue disorder that causes me to have problems with my back and all my joints. My knees in particular are quite bad. I don't find pushing scooters from the handlebars to be very difficult, as long as said scooter is under 80lbs or so. My old vsett was very heavy and took more force to move, and it was definitely a problem walking it through buildings at times. That said, as someone with joint issues, I would strongly recommend getting a bike instead. With a scooter your nerve issues are more likely to be an issue. Gripping the handlebars with both hands is required, you can't safely go one-handed like with a bike. Being able to rest one side would surely be useful for you. It's also more physically involved than you may expect. You'll need to use your body for balance and control of the scooter. Your upper body and core will be doing a lot of the work, but you're also controlling your centre of gravity with your legs. I'm actually planning to switch to an ebike myself because of my physical issues. Riding a scooter for more than an hour or two causes me a lot of pain. I'm going to try installing a seat in the near future, but bikes are far more stable, and therefore safer, vs a scooter with a seat added

Sounds like a heavy user. In that case of course a dual motor scooter would be better, but that’s not everyone’s case. The Vsett in my flair peaks at about 1560w, which is pretty slow for my 220-230lbs frame, going about 8mph on the steepest hill around me. Meanwhile my girl who is about 100lbs less, that same hill isn’t an issue. Also not everyone wants to deal with the extra weight that comes with having two motors.

Well put it this way, besides the probably big weight and size difference, you can always power down the RS, can’t power up the phantom. I use my big ass Burn E as my everyday scooter. I tried using the Vsett I bought for my gf, but yeah the power isn’t there, plus she has the acceleration turned down a bit. Like 3/5. So I don’t feel comfortable getting a good lead in front of traffic. Of course when it’s gets up to speed it’s not issue. No customizable modes so I’d have to go in the p setting every time to change it. Sure, it’s easier to whip around… but that’s about it. I will lug my scooter everywhere because I can switch from granny mode to balls to the wall in two button presses, with my regular riding mode dead smack in the middle. 52v vs 72v is no joke. I’d go with the RS and call it a day. With all of that said, unless you’re dealing with stairs, the widest part on scooters is the handlebars, you can always put it on the lowest mode if you need to walk with it. Also: being able to adjust the ride height on the RS makes a huge difference. With the stem *and* the deck. Also also: had no idea the 52v phantom is just as heavy as my 72v burn e (102lbs), just about the same top speed as well. So weight is out the window

I’m rocking a size 14, but I also have humongous scooters. The Vsett is *just* enough at about 27 inches, most of it usable. So I’d say you’d want something with at least 27 inches of length. I’m also tall af so I definitely need leg room to have a good stance. But I guess it all depends on how long you’ll be on the scooter.

If you go for the low price scooters then that is what you will get. And it’s usually the battery that suffers on these scooters. Whatever you do buy from a reputable dealer like RevRides as they use good quality battery’s even the cheapest option will last you years. Don’t be the one a year from now stuck with replacing an expensive battery for your not so old scooter. I have purchased 5 new scooters all Vsetts and one Zero which is before they changed the name to Vsett all with the less expensive batteries and all working almost as new some as old as 4 years.