Xiaomi - M365

Hi all, I'm looking to buy a cheap scooter with solid tires. My experience: I previously had the M365 and did \~600 miles with it. My commute back then was 5 miles each way and I was generally satisfied with it. However I got many flat tires was painful (had to walk) and costly (much harder to DIY compared to bicycle tires, and I was spending about $50 each time to get them replaced. Then Covid came and I no longer had to do that commute, and decided to sell it. I now need to do a much shorter commute, roughly 2.5 miles each way. I am aware about the cons of solid tires, but the road is relatively smooth and I'm willing to trade some comfort for not having to go through the hassle/costs of fixing tires. For reference, I looked at this Widoway scooter which has solid tires and costs about $120 [https://www.amazon.com/Electric-19-21Miles-Commuter-Escooter-Portable/dp/B0DFYZRV8F](https://www.amazon.com/Electric-19-21Miles-Commuter-Escooter-Portable/dp/B0DFYZRV8F) Of course in general you get what you pay for, and I have never heard about that brand. I'm willing to spend a bit more (maybe $200) if there's a more reputable brand that fits my requirements. I also saw this Roinside scooter at $190 seems to have better reviews but haven't heard this brand either [https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Scooter-Long-Range-Commuting-Foldable/dp/B0DNHXC7DY](https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Scooter-Long-Range-Commuting-Foldable/dp/B0DNHXC7DY) Any recommendations?

Yes I was using slime a lot on the M365 but even that didn't hold after some point. Changing even the back tire without the motor in the way was impossible for me. Even the bike shop struggled to change it, the tire is much harder to change compared to a bike unless you are an expert. Yes the tire and/or the tube might only cost a few dollars but changing it ultimately requires a professional, and labor costs here in the US are crazy.

Posts should be automodded if they say stuff like "2-300". IT DOESN'T MATTER what scooter you get. For the budget you're looking at, literally everything is the exact same. They're all clones of the exact same scooter. A Xiaomi M365. A <35lb scooter with a single 350w motor in the rear, 8.5" tires, no real brakes, no suspension.

I use an electric scooter but mine is on the heavier side... I had an xiaomi M365 before and it was perfectly sized and weight was manageable!

I have both ! I use my Dualtron Forever for the big trips and travelling through my big city where I need to be among cars on the road, has blinkers, horn, helmet and everything For the smaller and proximity trips, I use my basic Xiaomi m365 ! I almost built it myself with three scooters bodies I had on hand. It's very reliable and quite capable for such a small machine ! Don't underestimate those little scooters, they're like the 2cv of scooters, they're cheap, inexpensive, reliable, gets the work done and is easily fixable !

For a girl of 59 kg, xiaomi m 365 has enough power.

If I were you, I would pay attention to small scooters weighing up to 14 kg, such as Ninebot ES, Xiaomi m365 or analogues. It is better to consider scooters with inflatable tires, they need to be monitored more, but the trips will be more comfortable. With your small weight, if you ride mainly on sidewalks and asphalt, then if there are inflatable wheels, there is no point in suspensions. With your small weight, most suspensions will not add much comfort, but the presence of a suspension in the scooter adds weight to it. Also pay attention to the dimensions, it will be inconvenient to bring a large scooter into the bus / subway. As a person who works physically, carrying heavy loads every day, wearing a scooter weighing even 24 kg is not a pleasure. I don't even recommend a scooter weighing 19 kg to you, it's not just hard, but it can lead to back injuries. If you don't work as a loader, then you won't really like carrying even 14 kg every day. I judge by the example of girls I know who are uncomfortable lifting a Ninebot es4 weighing 14.5 kg, but a xiaomi m365 weighing 12 kg is calmly lifted to the 3rd floor.

With your weight, almost any adult scooter is suitable for you. Given the short travel distance, scooters with small batteries are also suitable. I would consider Ninebot scooters, as they have more reliable electronics, and the mechanical parts are also quite reliable. For example, Ninebot scooters Es series (Es1, Es2, Es4), F series(F25, F35, F45), G30, G2 (used ones can be bought for $ 300, and this would be the best solution for the money), E2. Of all the scooters listed, the Es series has a folding mechanism, which makes it easier to store it leaning against the wall, placing it on the front wheel, and using a wall mount. Other scooters can also be stored in this way, but due to the design features, they will bulge strongly from the wall, and it is not very convenient to put them on 1 wheel. Xiaomi scooters also performed well, such as the m365, m365 pro, etc. Inexpensive kukirin scooters can also be considered, but they often have mechanical problems, and the electrics sometimes fail, although due to their mass production, spare parts for them are cheaper than for other scooters.

This is essentially a copy of the xiaomi m365, but more powerful, and the price is too damn high. As for me, it's better to pay a little extra and buy a Ninebot G2 or Ninebot E3 (just the first thing that came to mind), they are not inferior in power, they have a double suspension. Well, or look for something better than the hiboy s2 pro, for that price.

You’re definitely not overthinking this at all. I’ve had my xiaomi ninebot for a few months now, and the battery issue still annoys me. The whole up to 44 miles thing is just misleading because who’s riding in eco mode that long? I love the way it rides, responsive and light but yeah, the practical side doesn’t match the price. I’d keep it if upgrades were a real thing, but without them, it feels like we’re stuck with a half finished concept.

My original m365 still rolling. I've rebuilt it a bit, but not because things broke just because I wanted more battery power etc :P Its still a favorite of mine for those jump on and go errands.

> The KQI3 Max will give you numb knees and feet after any medium bump, no matter the speed, even when bending knees and riding properly. I've done some fairly long and bumpy rides on my 10"-modded M365 with no suspension, including some offroading, and never felt a single problem to my knees and feet. The only thing that does make me go "aw, crap" is cobblestones, but that happens on every scooter and bicycle I have, including the dual-suspension scooter and the mountain bike. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just saying sensitivity varies wildly; you can't assume.

Max g30lp or or gotrax g4 ( some people say they are horrible but I used it snd it’s amazing ) maybe the xiaomi scooters too like the xiaomi m365 or xiaomi pro models if you can manage to find one under 500 I reccomend some with solid tires ( be aware of clones ) as solid tires can give you more range and be more reliable because of no risk of flats . But can be more unsafe when wet and be more bumpy

The only decent scooters below ~350-400$ are all used. The cheapest „good” new scooter you can get is I think the NIU kqi2 pro for 379$. If you want to look for a used one, depending on budget try Xiaomi m365, m365 pro, pro 2 or the Ninebot MAX G30. Out of these the Ninebot is by far the best (and most powerful), but they all aren’t particularly great on hills, so it all depends on how big your hills are. On the Xiaomis and Ninebot you can also modify the firmware to make them a bit stronger if that’s something you’re willing to get into