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Lelit anna with pid would be great to pull consistently good shots. Gcp without the mod is not that good as compared to anna
You're coming from a pretty competent entry level machine, so your budget is tough. The Lelit is probably the best of the 3 for usability, but I don't think you'll notice much difference in output, and the workflow will be slower. I don't really like the BDB (cheaply made, common failure points) but they offer *a lot* for the money, especially here in Aus - you can regularly get it for $1000-$1200. Expect issues after 5 years and you can decide whether that's a worthwhile investment for you. Quick Mill Silvano is an interesting machine that flies under the radar a bit here. At $1650ish it's a decent chunk over your $1000 - but it's not much more than a Silvia... Good built quality, 58mm, PID controlled, steam & espresso at the same time. Ticks a lot of boxes.
I like the setup - but why go for a dual boiler version if you just occasionally need milk? I’d go for the cheaper Lelit Anna with PID to check temperature.
I've had an Anna for 7 years, making 2 flat whites back to back twice a day, and I absolutely love it. I got a precise fit tamper for it and have never felt I've missed anything at 57mm. In terms of maintenance I backflush weekly and descale monthly and haven't had a single issue until this year when I've had to replace the steam valve stem. It's also a compact, beautiful machine. Can't recommend highly enough.
Biggest piece of advice: budget for the grinder first, machine second. That “avg coffee grinder” you have almost certainly won’t cut it for espresso — pour over and espresso grind requirements are worlds apart, and a mediocre grinder will bottleneck even an expensive machine. I’d split your budget roughly 50/50. A Eureka Mignon Notte ($300) or DF64 Gen 2 ($360) paired with a $700-900 machine will run circles around a $1,500 machine with an inadequate grinder. For the machine — at 4-6 shots a week you absolutely don’t need a dual boiler. That’s overkill for your use case. A single boiler with PID gives you temp stability without the cost. The Lelit Anna PID or Rancilio Silvia Pro would both give you a real espresso experience with room to grow, and since you like tinkering and dialing things in, you’ll appreciate the control they offer over the more “black box” Breville options. You already know what good espresso tastes like from that Rocket at work — what grinder are they pairing with it? That might help narrow things down for you.
Anything by Lelit. Solid machines at a good price point. The manufacturer also has great videos on YouTube for how to do basic maintenance. I have the Anna PID but would love to get a Victoria or Elizabeth.
I would not spend all 1L into a machine that does everything. go pro rather. 1) Lelit Anna with PID 2) DF64/T64 Grinder 3) A Good scale 4) And decent tamping tools. Prolly little over 1L. but lelit machines are built for 10-15+ years. breville builtin grinders have no competition with a solid 64mm flat burr grinder ( eg:T64) they are build like tanks. the consistency is unmatched. and then you can upgrade to SSP burrs someday with same grinder. I have a Dedica and can pull shots better than a cafe's la marzocco if they aren't getting everything right. recently sourced T64, Scale, Tamping tools from china. sticking to coffee in/out ratios. no flex; but its doing wonders. that being said. DYOR.
Finally upgraded my espresso setup to a Bezzera Duo Top MN and Eureka Atom W65. I've been using a Lelit Anna PID and Eureka Mignon Perfetto for more than three years. I spent a long time choosing between the Lelit Bianca and Bezzera Duo. In the end, I decided to try something new (though both would have been new for me). For the grinder, I really wanted one with grind-by-weight. There weren't many options in this price range. I looked at the Fiorenzato AllGround Sense, but I wasn't sure about its versatility feature. I already had that with my Mignon Perfetto, and I never actually used it. Can't wait to start using these machines and see what they can do. P.S. A bit shocked by how big the new equipment is and my wife is not happy about losing kitchen counter space.
Great! I should have upgraded earlier. Now every step of making coffee is fun, not just the looks. It feels like real pro equipment, not a square box with switches like before. Especially fun for several drinks—tamper, dose, pull shots, steam milk, all fast and smooth! What I did: \- Bean hopper is too big. I 3D-printed a smaller one for now. No small originals available. \- Bought extra baskets and bottomless portafilter. \- Tried many coffee types that seemed bad before.
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