Oracle BES980XL

Not 6000 a little less than 1/2 is the breville oracle not the touch but the first generation 980 xl It’s fantastic

I’d always go with the non touchscreen model. I had the regular Oracle with buttons, and a friend had the newer touchscreen version. After using his machine, the interface really bothered me and it was noticeably slow to navigate. I’d also imagine the software will only get slower or more buggy over time. I also agree with the other responses that it’s best to avoid an all in one machine. The built in grinder is extremely frustrating to use and struggles to grind consistently at the dose you want. It took less than a week before I was so fed up with it that I ended up buying a Niche Zero.

I have had a BDB for 7 years and recently decided it was time for a refresh, my machine has pulled over 6000 shots and it has also started to look a bit scratched up. In that time, the machine has been serviced annually. When it came to a decision on choosing a new machine, it very quickly became clear that there are still no machines on the market as well thought out from an ease of operation for both experienced and inexperienced users alike. •Manoeuvrability is still unmatched, those wheels that are retractable are top tier a decade later. •Filling water from the front, Breville still has the best solution. • Shot timer on a machine as capable as the BDB, turns into a Jekyll and Hyde personality. The easy, approachable machine for a novice and then the creative outlet for the experimental individuals. • The consistency of temperature, it doesn't miss a beat, so there's no guesswork and temp surfing. •The wonderful and still ahead of the curve pre infusion. Set PP and duration or hold down manual shot button. Genius in it's simplicity. In my search, I very quickly came to the conclusion, that, the ease of approach for both audiences at home, was what Breville nailed a decade ago and are still ahead of the curve. So now I got home with another BDB, not the prettiest face but oh so practical.

Maintenance cost me 18 AUD...... I did not pay $3k for mine, if I wanted a nice stainless steel machine, it needs to match the Breville in the areas mentioned. Not a single machine does. Not interested in plumbing in. The dual boiler offers me all that and more without the need to plumb in. My previous modded BDB let me pre infuse to my hearts content and reduce flow with it's Slayer mod. All without the annoyance of needing to have line pressure by being plumbed in.

Serviced myself. I replace orings every year and group head seal once every 2 years . I buy the kit off ebay, as it comes with everything I need. Takes 45 min. Group head seal doesn't need replacing unless you notice that you have to tighten portafilter excessively to lock in. I get the seals off ebay. The last purchase was from cockabrew but I've also used warehaus_orings. https://ebay.us/m/CQ9CZv - Warehaus_oring basic kit. Option 2 https://ebay.us/m/3eUBSo - If you have a steam wand leak this kit includes all seals and teflon for ball, except the ball joint on steam wand. No need to replace seals on anything else.

Yup. It's the same machine with an added grinder and auto milk steaming.

It has a more robust steam wand and dual boiler let's you steam and extract coffee at the same time but I don't think a dedicated boiler would make it more robust as in stronger, but it does make your workflow quicker. For some the wait between extraction and steaming is fine but we do both at the same time at home and a dual boiler is a must. The thing to note though is the Bdb steam is fully manual unlike the Bambino Plus.

I'd also like to know. There's literally nothing at this price point. I had money set aside for a top of the line machine. Saved over 7 years and still walked out with a BdB, even machines that are priced much higher still lack some of the simple conveniences that the person cleaning for example would appreciate, easy manoeuvrability, or maybe someone wants to fill the tank but is a little clumsy, no worries the front catch is there.

I used to make my daily on a Breville Oracle dual. It grinds tamps and brews the shot. All I did was froth milk. My nu daily is a Bianca which is less than 5min more time if that.oracle was simpler. Turned on at the time I set too which I miss. It also had/ has preinfusion

I have a BREVILLE Oracle (dbl boiler) . It was my first big step into getting unhooked from 3 lrg mochas a day from Starbucks. I bought it new over $2000 and it paid itself off within six months I think. I just took another step up to a better, but more complicated Lelit Bianca. My son works for a place that gave us 1/2 off. So, I couldn’t pass it up. I’m happy to do an Oracle video demo for you to show you how to make a mocha in it. I found to be quite simple. It grinds the beans, tamps it, brews it and has a milk steamer too. I used to add mocha powder on top of the portafilter, over the espresso grinds. I see a lot of bambino recommendations. I have no experience with that model. Of course, to stay in budget with an Oracle, you’d be looking at a used one. Runs as low as $350 to $1200 on Marketplace. (new ones are over 2k.) If you consider that an appealling option. Let me know.

Dual boiler sage oracle it’s awesome Rocket it’s nice Lelit Bianca Or Lelit mx3 ( not sure of the model) I have a delonghi dedica and just swap the steam wand without any hard work just the tip and it’s way better