DE1XXL

Decent DE1 XXL Does EVERYTHING. Can be used for small caterings, energy efficient, heats up fast, not too heavy

Personally, if I had that money to spend I wouldn't be considering anything other than a Decent espresso Bengle. I recently got a DE1 myself, so maybe I'm a little biased, but the Bengle improves on basically all of the DE1's shortcomings. The new pump design is insanely quiet and has a 50%+ increase in flow and smoother delivery, it looks prettier, has integrated scales, has a temp probe for milk steaming, and a cup warmer. The heat up time is blisteringly fast (under 3 mins for the Bengle), Decent's steam is insanely dry since they're working with a custom thermocoil at 160C, and you've got full temperature, pressure, and flow profiling capabilities with presets to emulate any number of other machines, hot water is dispensed at whatever temperature you want on the fly and can be dosed by weight for consistency. It's probably the most technically capable machine in existence, about the only thing it can't replicate is the physical tactility of actually operating a spring lever, E61 etc. Their rep for customer support is excellent, and the warranty is infinitely extendable, even if it has expired. I guess you could say that the other machines stand more chance of being serviced when Decent may not exist as a company, but I don't see any indication that they're about to fold any time soon, and ultimately are you shopping for an espresso machine or a family heirloom?

Yeah, I believe it's been delayed to early summer so that they can properly integrate their new in house designed pumps. For me, steam power on the DE1 is absolutely fine, no delay, dry as hell, and strikes a nice balance between speed and forgivingness. I can't compare it to a linea or synchronika from experience but I'm sure it lags behind those machines in terms of raw power. That said, the DE1XXL is more powerful and intended for light commercial use, according to decent's spec it'll steam 200ml in about 24 seconds, which is pretty epic especially considering how small the machine is, still not as fast as the linea mini can be, but I'm not sure anyone needs 10 second steaming for home use. No official spec for the Bengle yet, but I believe the 220V version is going to be at least matching the DE1XXL (which is 220V only) in terms of steam power and heat up.

Not sure why the downvotes. Sure, it's pretty nuts for a first setup, but if you've got the money... We all get an idea of how we are when it comes to gear related hobbies, if you're the kind of person who's likely going end up getting the itch to move to high end gear before too long, might as well just grab the bull by the horns if you can afford to. Buy once, cry once. LM has never really appealed to me that much, I run a robot at the moment and would miss the profiling capabilities. I think Decent DE1 is my next move, it's not cheap, but it's the ideal mix of features and footprint for me. Currently just hesitating in the hope that Decent launch that refurb machine program that they talked about in the Bengle showcase video.

I had a look into it a while back, and it seems like Decent have made it as straightforward and painless as possible to get the machines back to them for service and repair. Imo this is a pretty huge deal considering it's a machine with a lot of unique or unusual stuff going on inside, where your local technician who knows their way around an E61 might be a bit out of their depth.

Fellow new DE1 owner here, although I went for the 20% discounted V1.46 mashup. I do love the all black look of the new models, but the stainless front is fine given the discount. I went that route because it seemed like all the machine I would ever need, and it ticks so many boxes. Fast heat up, dry steam, full profiling capabilities, small footprint, water tank that's easy to access when tucked under kitchen units (non plastic too, which is nice), infinitely extendable warranty, brew by weight, hot water dispensed at any temp I want. And all that, delivered to the UK with no additional fees, for £29 more than a profitec pro 700. It's a lot of money, but I'd argue that of all the £2K+ prosumer machines, it's arguably the most "sensible" choice in many ways.

Oh I don't know, there's still plenty of legitimate reasons to use the DE1 even if you're defaulting to just a couple of profiles. The tiny footprint, easily accessible water tank when it's tucked under kitchen cabinets, the fast heat up time, the insanely dry steam immediately available, the fact that it's able to automatically save shots on adaptive profiles, brew by weight (if you have a compatible scale), hot water at any temperature you want (also dispensed by weight). I'm not trying to sell you on it, just pointing out a bunch of the core features that I appreciate outside of the profiling capabilities. It's not the sexiest machine, or the nicest sounding, and definitely not the most tactile, but it's got a lot going for it aside from that.

Personally, if I had that money to spend I wouldn't be considering anything other than a Decent espresso Bengle. I recently got a DE1 myself, so maybe I'm a little biased, but the Bengle improves on basically all of the DE1's shortcomings. The new pump design is insanely quiet and has a 50%+ increase in flow and smoother delivery, it looks prettier, has integrated scales, has a temp probe for milk steaming, and a cup warmer. The heat up time is blisteringly fast (under 3 mins for the Bengle), Decent's steam is insanely dry since they're working with a custom thermocoil at 160C, and you've got full temperature, pressure, and flow profiling capabilities with presets to emulate any number of other machines, hot water is dispensed at whatever temperature you want on the fly and can be dosed by weight for consistency. It's probably the most technically capable machine in existence, about the only thing it can't replicate is the physical tactility of actually operating a spring lever, E61 etc. Their rep for customer support is excellent, and the warranty is infinitely extendable, even if it has expired. I guess you could say that the other machines stand more chance of being serviced when Decent may not exist as a company, but I don't see any indication that they're about to fold any time soon, and ultimately are you shopping for an espresso machine or a family heirloom?

Yeah, I believe it's been delayed to early summer so that they can properly integrate their new in house designed pumps. For me, steam power on the DE1 is absolutely fine, no delay, dry as hell, and strikes a nice balance between speed and forgivingness. I can't compare it to a linea or synchronika from experience but I'm sure it lags behind those machines in terms of raw power. That said, the DE1XXL is more powerful and intended for light commercial use, according to decent's spec it'll steam 200ml in about 24 seconds, which is pretty epic especially considering how small the machine is, still not as fast as the linea mini can be, but I'm not sure anyone needs 10 second steaming for home use. No official spec for the Bengle yet, but I believe the 220V version is going to be at least matching the DE1XXL (which is 220V only) in terms of steam power and heat up.

Dual boiler or bambino. I had a BBE and it was great... after i got a better grinder. The dual boiler is mod-able where you can add flow control which is kinda cool. Looking back, had i known what i know now, id probably have gotten BDB, but the bambino is pretty good too (from what most everyone who gets one says). Just got me a pink Decent last month, so I'm out of the I-need-a-new-espresso-machine phase. But now I'm looking at top-tier grinders to finish my machine set up. Then it'll just be cool accessories and the upgrades that Decent puts out. But my Breville gave me 10 years and its still works great

Went from BBE 870 to DE1 in October (15% off for a breast cancer awareness thing) i love it. I turn it on and its ready in a couple mins max. In the morning the little countdown starts at 120 seconds (but usually jumps down faster) and during the day/evening its around 40-80 seconds. Still playing with all the profiles. I have 2 different bean subscriptions timed out so i get basically a bag a week 2 at a time, the beans change so i mess w the profiles, but once i find a good profile I'll use it repeatedly.... just sharing that info bc if you stick to a certain bean/roast, you don't have to mess with much once you find what you like... but you CAN. I'm currently messing with temperature.

I paid 0 tariffs on it. It shipped and was in my hands in 2 days.

Just get a Decent DE1. I got one after faffing about using an E61 with flow control, there is no substitute if you want to control every aspect of the shot.

I got mine as a cosmetic defect unit in the end of Sept this year (barely noticeable nick at the back of the machine) otherwise perfect.

Decent DE1

Ill informed. EDIT: What I paid doesn't change the fact that you are clueless. Clueless people are easily triggered when their ignorance is pointed out!

I have the Decent and love it. Couldn’t see myself owning anything else after using a Decent.

If consistency is what you’re after, you can’t really do better than the Synchronika. I’ve pulled 20 back to back shots, very, very stable machine. The Linea Mini would also be very consistent. If you’re after exceptional taste, for me, a spring lever is the way to go. I had an 800 for a while and got really good shots. Every machine will have quirks, on the 800, its temperature stability, but if you get on top of it with a group head thermometer (and maybe a small fan) you will be able to pull some amazing shots. At most you have to wait a couple of minutes between shots for the machine to stabilize. There are other spring levers out there that don’t suffer that much with temperature stability, Nurri Leva or ACS Vostok/Vesuvius would be my top picks. A little biased as I traded the 800 for a Nurri. So, wrapping up, if no fuss, ease of use is your main deciding factor, my vote goes to Synchronika. It can even do flow control if you’re wanting to tinker. Linea Mini would fit into this category too. If you want to chase amazing shots, spring lever. And finally to throw another wrench into the mix, if I could only have one machine, Decent gets my vote, it can be as easy or complicated as you want. The stop at weight feature really is game changing. And of course it can mimic almost any other machine out there. I say almost because it can’t quite get to a spring lever level because of flow limitations, but it gets you 90% of the way.

The Decent is amazing, and there’s a perk, if you maintain their warranty after the initial 2 years, it’s $300 for the next 2 years, forever. And they include all shipping and import duties, at least to my country, if it needs repair. Don’t know of anyone else doing anything similar. I got mine used, it was from a low use cafe, and it sat in storage for a couple of years before I got it. Powered up right away, did some deep cleaning but the insides were pristine. Working great and now under warranty again in case anything happens :) Now, don’t get me wrong, I absolutely loved my 800 and would have been totally content keeping it. Nothing negative after I figured out the temperature stability thing. When plumbed in, it’s almost totally silent, minimal required maintenance, very few parts. It’ll last decades.

Decent owner for 5 years - yes, I'd buy again. It has been almost flawless. Zero regrets. You can find an owner on the link who will let you try their machine out. See it for yourself and then decide. [https://decentespresso.com/support/ambassador\_find](https://decentespresso.com/support/ambassador_find)

the community aspect and info on the Decent Forum is underrated! I learned 10x more from the machine and community in 2 years than I had in 13 years of owning a quickmill Anita.