DE1XXL

Hi mate I’ve been using a you for 3 weeks now absolutely love it I don’t play around with it tbh I had rocket r9 one lm mini x3 gs3 va Prima e1 decent de1xx and I’ve got synesso es1 in my office but you head and shoulders the best machine I’ve used in drinking dark and medium roast steam wands the best only 2 machines I’ve been disappointed with were va e1 and decent de1xx too temperamental if u want good honest coffee every day I’d go for mini but if u want to experiment with id go for the you i am waiting for my lagom 01 grinder im currently using a va Mythos myg85 then i will experiment

I paid 0 tariffs on it. It shipped and was in my hands in 2 days.

Just get a Decent DE1. I got one after faffing about using an E61 with flow control, there is no substitute if you want to control every aspect of the shot.

I have the Decent and love it. Couldn’t see myself owning anything else after using a Decent.

Decent owner for 5 years - yes, I'd buy again. It has been almost flawless. Zero regrets. You can find an owner on the link who will let you try their machine out. See it for yourself and then decide. [https://decentespresso.com/support/ambassador\_find](https://decentespresso.com/support/ambassador_find)

the community aspect and info on the Decent Forum is underrated! I learned 10x more from the machine and community in 2 years than I had in 13 years of owning a quickmill Anita.

Beyond the build or performance the OP did say minimal plastic, polymers, brass and copper. I don't know if that means copper over PTFE or silicone but in either case I don't think the DE1 meets the constraint.

>Considering all that, the Decent is more fitting towards this requirement of OP I can't do anything about the OP being unclear or contradictory. I said "copper over PTFE or silicone" to encourage clarification. So if the OP cares it's up to them to say "I prefer metal over plastic" or "I prefer PTFE+LDPE over copper" or whatever. Decent holds the position that PTFE plus a food safe polymer tubing is harmless, inert (a common assertion) and superior to metal which informs their build materials. >\[DE\] has no brass in the water path anymore, all stainless steel or ptfe As another comment hastens to remind us (I think) that PPS is "plastic". So the DE hot water path includes PTFE, flexible polymer tubing and PPS.

I went from a Linea Mini to a decent, so I think this is a fair question. I had specific needs for a smaller machine that may move about once a year, which was in favor of the decent. I enjoy the options to use different brew profiles, but I don’t often tinker with them unless I am using dramatically different beans. I do occasionally experiment in ways that the LMLM couldn’t. Changing pressure, temperature, or time is extremely easy and an interesting way to dial in a shot without touching the grinder. I also enjoy many of the small QoL features in the DE1 line. Least expected but loved feature is the shot timer. Drinking 180s after pour has been my optimal time to enjoy espresso shots. I never even considered that as a factor before. I liked the LMLM workflow and reliability. Decent actually has some issues that they won’t address under warranty, which is  very concerning. Blaming the ghost touch failure on EM interference is infuriating because it is so obviously a software bug, but Decent refuses to admit it. I still enjoy the machine, but this defect and idiotic explanation makes me angry. La Marzocco is a reliable top-end machine. If you don’t want to tinker or add a bunch of technology to your espresso workflow, that’s the machine to get. If you want to tinker and juggle different features (and bugs), the DE1 does all of that.

If you’re looking to experiment, then the Decent for sure, for the community alone.