DeLonghi - Perfecta Evo ESAM420.80.TB

I bought a used Delonghi Perfecta on ebay for $250 in 2014. Over 6000 double shots later, it's still going strong. I 've replaced about $45 worth of parts and O-rings in that time. The shots are delicious and the milk drinks are consistent. From what I've read folks are still pretty happy with their Delonghis

Super automatic. I like the Delonghi Esam - if you can get an old refurbished 3300 even better. It’ll get you to pre school.

In Ontario as well we have the Delonghi Evo got it on sale with tax for $600CAD last march Made over 1,000 milk based drinks on the machine its been very good and easy to use and to maintain We had been Nespresso Original line drinkers before and had very good reliability from Delonghi machines in the past. Its an entry level machine but makes coffee like most of the expensive models but without the fancy screen and apps. The beans you use and the settings will define the coffee you get out of these machines Video Comparison on three Delonghi models [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kGtVa8pfoc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kGtVa8pfoc)

As others have said this is daily question machines from Delonghi, Jura and KitchenAid are the ones that get the most votes. All of them when dialed in with the right beans will make a good espresso and they have machines with a steam wand so you can make a milk based drink when you need or a milk system. Wee have a Delonghi Evo with the latte crema system its entry level super but its very good If you just want the best espresso only may want to ask here [https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/](https://www.reddit.com/r/espresso/)

we have an Evo with the latte cream system since 2024 its been a great machine and very easy to use and maintain even new users in the house as its just has selection icons you can modify the recipes as well. we have made well over 3,000 milk based drinks in this time and many over ice as well as regular drinks you can find the Evo on sale and the upgraded next is the same machine just with a screen here is a video comparing the EVO with two other more expensive Delonghi models [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kGtVa8pfoc&t=4s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kGtVa8pfoc&t=4s)

Not really and if you not wanting to clean i would avoid a super automatic and you will find most recommendations are for Delonghi, Jura or Kichenaid machines Cleaning them is easy but its something you need to do We have a Delonghi Evo with the latte cream option and we make latte and Cappuccino drinks every day we have made well over 1,000 in the past year. Milk carafe can be topped up and put in the fridge for 3 days before cleaning - Cleaning for me is taking it apart (there are 5 separate pieces) i put them in a jug with hot soapy water and soak them for 15 minutes and then rinse with hot water let them dry and then fill up with milk and put in the fridge for next drink. You will need to empty out the puck bin every other day if you use it a lot and if not every 3 to 4 days and wash out to avoid mold. Same time as emptying pucks you will empty the drip tray this collects water that rinses the nozzles on startup and shut down and also rinses internally. Water tank will require filling every other day if you drink a lot Water tank has a filter you can replace every 2 months i use filtered water so its not a requirement and the machine can be run without filter. Depending upon the hardness of your water (You set this on the machine at the beginning) you will need to descale from either every month (very hard water) or every 6 months (Very soft Water) Every 3 months or less its up to you you will need to remove the brew group/Infuser unit (this is the unit where the puck is formed and the water goes through the puck and then the spent puck is pushed off into the puck container )and so you soak this in very hot water and rinse off and dry and then re-install. You will also need to add beans to the machine as some rate depending upon coffee shots made can be every other day or longer. wiping the outside of the machine should be done every week and cleaning of the sensor that detects the milk on the front of the machine. So No! based upon your requirements you should avoid a super automatic machine as they are all basically the same for cleaning :)

Most super automatics are focused on espresso based drinks we have a Delonghi Evo which is an entry level machine that makes good espresso and can also do long blacks. However puck is the same so its more water through same volume of coffee on a longer drink you can get one with a manual steam wand which is lower cost. We mainly drink cappuccinos our son drinks over ice long drinks and we are all happy with the output. I don't know but i assume the more you spend the potential for bigger pucks and so stronger long drinks maybe an option. Just remember whatever machine you buy the beans and the grind define the taste

I think many people feel the same and then jump into a high end machine first and in many cases are happy We have a Delonghi Evo and its been great and we drink Latte and Cappuccinos every day and our son drinks over ice it was a lot less than $1k and has the same brew group as the Eletta. Very easy to use and maintain Most of these machines you can vary the strength of the coffee and many happy people with Jura, Delonghi and KitchenAid machines. However the bean you use will define the drink and you will have to adjust to get the best tasting drink in many cases so be prepared for some learning.

Delonghi would be the one but you should look at the Evo as its a better comparison to the Philips do you need all the expensive options? Had an Evo since July 2024 its been a revelation when moving from Nespresso the coffee quality is very good and cleaning and maintenance is very easy. Most feedback will be for Delonghi, Jura or Kf7 machines as real options

We have the one with milk carafe as we like milk drinks we have made over 1,000 so far on the Evo its been awesome. We also have the over ice option which our son loves and uses everyday and he was not a coffee drinker and now he is :) The one with the wand is less money and would still give you the option for milk drinks when you want.

The only way to experience fresh roasted coffee is with fresh roasted coffee. Nespresso does an outstanding job with dark roast as the roasty and smoky notes are easily preserved in nitrogen flushed pods. Even their med roast pods are actually dark, and their light is more like medium. There are millions of people who enjoy Nespresso and there is nothing wrong with dark roast coffee. Most specialty roasted coffee (even dark roast) is way less dark than Nespresso or Starbucks and thus less intense. Many people transitioning from Nespresso and trying fresh roasted coffee for the first time often think the coffee taste weak and too bright. This is because coffee Is somewhat an acquired taste and your palate has come accustomed to dark roast. If you can resist the urge to buy super dark beans such as Starbucks and Lavazza your palate will begin to wake up and you will be able to appreciate a much wider variety of specialty coffee. You will also find that Nespresso begins to taste a bit burnt and bitter when enjoyed straight. On the other hand, if you absolutely love dark coffee the experience on a super auto will still be better than Nespresso but only marginally so. Phillips machines are good and they actually dose about the same as Nespresso, but a De'Longhi start or evo is a better option as it doses higher and grind finer. of course, there are more expensive models that produce even better espresso but if you're interested in the Philips, I take it you're looking on the more budget side of things.

Delonghi bean to cup with a manual milk frother

Delonghi use the same infuser in all the models. We only drink espresso, maybe a latte once a month. Just ordered the Evo model for $500 CAD ($360 USD).

I got a DeLonghi Evo a couple months ago and it's been a game changer. It makes what I consider great coffee but in all honesty if I want that 100% best ever coffee I'm going to go to a local cafe and have them pull me a shot and just enjoy the experience but I think most people are okay with 90% great coffee. Also Aldi has a Peruvian organic whole bean coffee for $6.99 for 12 oz that is phenomenal.

Disagree with that My Delonghi been to cup must have made over 10000 coffees without any issues.

That's subjective. I've been more than happy with the coffee from our Delonghi bean to cup

Well, the choice depends on several factors, first being your budget. With the espresso machines, you need to get other stuff for them to make a decent coffee. A good grinder, some distribution tool, tamper, scale... That's gonna cost you some more money. The auto machine does not need any other "investment". Other important thing is: what do you want the machine to do? If you want to have a great espresso and are willing to take some time, experiment... The espresso machines are awesome. But if you want a decent tasting coffee without having to invest too much time then get the auto. We have this Phillips at my job and those machines don't really break down, make good coffee, and the brewing unit can be simply cleaned (can't really say that about some other brands). And if you want to go with the bean to cup option, I'd suggest looking for (used) DeLonghi machines. They are very easy to maintain and repair, don't look as cheap and flimsy as Phillips does, and are very reliable. Also you can find either ones with a steam wand or with the milk jug.

I have that machine. Maybe one shot as a break in. Delonghi seems ready to go on the first brew, at least that machine.