Classika PID

Hello and we all appreciate you doing this! I am currently rocking the ECM Classika with a DF64 (ssp cast v3) and am debating on upgrading. Main reason is I thought the single boiler would be fine for me, and it is, but my wife recently started asking for lattes and now the single boiler is a pain to switch as often as I have to. What dual boiler would give me a similar feel to my Classika? Assuming the synchronika, but I haven’t looked outside of ECM for dual boilers yet. Started on the BBE before getting my Classika. Always been very intrigued by the DE1…

buy once cry once. wish I did that too. went from a brevile, to a emc classika PID, to my current lucca 58. and almost went this route in 2019 but held off.

if you are financially able to afford it right now I'm would if thats the one you really want. I upgraded twice sob3 machines. if i would do it all over again I would of gone with the micra instead of the breville, then a ecm classika to the current lucca m58.

I don't think you need to spend that much. A Lelit Bianca or Elizabeth would be fine. Or an ECM Synchronika. If you want something more geeky a Decent would be around your maximum I think. And yes, you can buy a LM but I think it's too expensive for what it offers, you pay a lot for the brand, but it's just my personal opinion and I'm more on the best cost-benefit side.

Then, ECM is a solid choice. I have a Classika PID with flow control and love it. You may want a dual boiler for your milk drinks or a Classika may be good enough, it's very personal. I just don't recommend HXs (if you're crazy about espresso quality).

Vote for the classika because you can add a flow control paddle. With a pid, you have a ton of control over your shot

Quick heat up and an e61 group head are mutually exclusive. Have you looked at the grinder already? Go fancy on the grinder for 1K and combine it with a profitec go, and you have a great setup. It switches to steaming milk in 40 seconds which gives you just enough time to get rid of the spent puck and pour some milk in a pitcher. If you want a chromed out classic looking machine the ECM Clasica PID is a solid option.

That’s awesome! Yeah, I’ve seen the community on discord and HB. It seems like a great one to be apart of and, having lived in Denver before I’d like to support Ross’ work. The lack of pump noise is actually one of those features that very few talk about but it’s something I know I’d miss if I went with a rotary machine like the classika. I think I’ll probably go with the classika now and may make the switch to Argos when the platform and company is more mature.

I’m similarly shopping to get a new machine to upgrade my Breville and have pretty much determined that the ECM Classika is the best option for me. I looked at the Micra and Synchronika, but I feel that my sporadic milk drinks aren’t worth the added cost or space on the counter. Clive Coffee seemed to agree when we spoke as well.

I got the Classika about a month ago and have no regrets whatsoever. I rarely make milk drinks, so a double boiler made no sense to me from a time savings/workflow perspective. Additionally, an HX machine didn’t make sense as espresso is my priority, and not milk. I have brewed both light and dark roasts on it and have produced some of the best shots I’ve ever had this far after about 15 years in this hobby. No regrets whatsoever and loved the service from the fellas at Clive.