Flair 49 PRO Espresso Maker

It's WITHOUT electric heating??!! Is that an early April fool ?

Yes but that is not the action of a company that cares about it's customers, it's just capitalism! If they wanted to sell their F58 stock first do it then announce a real electric f49 They know and many here know that the F49 electric is a better machine, so make the better machine, price it right and call it a day, you still will get sales from your customer base and if you don't sell the few thousand F58 out them on sale and sell them and move on!

which does not make sense! Flair knows the demand for the 49 is real, and after all this anticipation they provide a no heating flair 49?, unless it is the initial phase where they want to sell the stock of 58s first, and THEN add the electric 49! i don't see at all the reason to create a flair 49 without any heating abitlity!

You might not need it but your coffee beans do! ( Ask your school science professor), you can't get palatable espresso at 67C brewing water temperature.

Flair 49 is basically perfect except for how much preheating it needs in my opinion. I much prefer how the puck and lever works compared to the robot. But damn the thermal mass is big it needs like 4 preheats for me to get the water to 90 degrees. I think I might switch to darker roasts so I don't have to worry about the preheats

It doesn’t look like they’re including a preheat funnel like the Pro 3 so you can put the brewing chamber on your kettle. I guess we’re back to just pumping water through it? I’ll be interested to hear how they respond to this.

I just don’t know how they’re going to sell this to people like me that already have a Pro 3. Maybe it’s just not for us. They took away a very reliable method of preheating and traded it for a wood-handled portafilter.

A Silvia would be worthy of consideration, though the fact it still comes stock without a PID is maddening. I put an app-based one in mine, so it looks stock but works great. Requires a bit of tinkering. Not the same design language at all, but the ECM Puristika is a fun conversation piece and brings excellent features to the table. I'd suggest looking into manual lever espresso machines if you want a machine that stands out visually. Everybody loves their Cafelat Robot, a truly impressive device inspired by a classic 50's Italian appliance. With a slightly more involed vorkflow (no boiler no pump, you have to heat the water separately and pour it), you get an device that can make better espresso than a basic boiler/pump machine can. Going for something more original like a Superkop (you can get it wall-mounted!) or Brua will give you more style points; a Flair 58 (or the less expensive non-electric Flair 49, which requires preheating) is also a very capable option, though it doesn't look as "classic".

Flair 49 and Flair 58. No plastics. All metal.

Yep. The 49. Its great.

The main problem is not that it doesn’t have a heating element but also u can’t take the brew chamber out of the machine and put it on a kettle because it’s connected to the whole machine. Idk why did they do that tbh but maybe to make people look at the 58x as the sweet spot or idk. With 49 mm basket it will be a nightmare to find a blind basket too. Ih and btw they don’t give u a mirror too sooooo + i was gonna get this machine but because u won’t be able to get many accessories i think i will buy a robot or 58x instead

I have good news, u don’t need the blind basket. When the lever is down the piston prevents any water from going down ,so yeah they really considered that. I saw that on their yt video

Yeah i know that but tbh when i saw lance review and how he liked it i thought that yeah maybe this is the one. Yeah it has some problem, but it looks much better than the robot for me. It’s not a bad machine at all it’s great and the heating problem is not a big issue for me(robot has the same problem) and with 49 mm and that price..yeah pull the trigger man

Not saying that the robot doesn’t look good but for me the flair wins. It has some woody touch on it which makes me lean towards it

Without any ability to preheat it seems like a bit of a downgrade. I imagine they will make an upgraded model in a year or so and charge an extra 1-150 for it Hopefully this isn't phased out in a year and half like the Pro 3... Kinda mad I bought my Pro 3 black Friday last year, haven't even got thru honeymoon phase before it was discontinued and replaced...

I wasn't talking about the 58 at all. I was talking about the Pro series. They discontinued the Pro 3 and replaced it with this Pro49. On all prior Pro series you could preheat, with this you cannot, which is why it's kinda a downgrade IMO.