PRO 3 Espresso Maker

If you want the best results for your money, go for hand grinders, manual espresso makers. If you want something easier to start with, go with Breville with built it grinder 

It depends on what your goal is. If you want the best espresso, get Flair PRO 3 Espresso Maker and you're left with 250$ you could the best hand grinder or a good electric grinder.

I used my Gaggia Classic for several years and just recently switched to a Flair Pro 3. Cheaper lever machines did not exist when I bought my Gaggia. Pros and Cons to both but i'm happy I made the switch. I always wanted a La Pavoni but never found a deal for one.

I just don’t know how they’re going to sell this to people like me that already have a Pro 3. Maybe it’s just not for us. They took away a very reliable method of preheating and traded it for a wood-handled portafilter.

They also sell a battery for those as well. I wouldn’t look at anything below the 58 types (like the pro 3) as the 58 series uses a standard portafilter that will be crucial for pulling multiple shots. I love my pro 2, but I would be miserable trying to do more than like two pulls a day.

But for the same price it’s better to get separate machine and grinder. This means the grinder will be better quality but also if one (machine or grinder) conks out you haven’t lost the whole machine as you would if you had an all in one

Yes on the flair. That would also work. Just not an all in one machine