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Buy once cry once. Get atleast hibrew or Gaggia evo pro.
I love that grinder, pairs with a gaggia pro evo... I love to push the portafilter in twice and have a preset grind and duration fill it.
Is a $200 SK40 a “good grinder”? Serious question. Purchased it 2 years ago along with my Gaggia classic evo. Been making cortados daily while wondering if my coffee is good or not. Nothing to compare it to and diluting with milk which makes it even harder to tell.
I’ve had the Evo for about a month now and found my groove about 2 weeks in. I thought the warm up time would be an issue but I just turn it on before I do anything in the morning and it’s good to go by the time I get back to it. The frothing was the biggest learning curve but finally got it figured out. Turn the steam switch on, wait 10 sec, purge the water out of the wand into a cup then it’s ready to froth. If you need another milk drink shortly after you can refill the boiler by running plain water without a porta filter. My wife isn’t interested in learning so I just make it for her, was the same with the drip coffee machine we had so no difference there. I’m not trying to make this my hobby, just a way to get a better tasting cup of coffee in the morning and it’s doing just that. My biggest issue is dialing in the grind and puck prep
There are both coated and uncoated models available. There was a really big issue of flakes falling off and getting in the water. They addressed this issue and changed the way they make them but i think it's probably best to still steer clear of them.
I know about "Boilergate". But a simple search even a young child can perform, will point out **exactly** which serial numbers to avoid. I agree that the E24 with its slightly bigger brass boiler is far superior in all respects, but if you find a "safe" Evo, you'll be fine. I live in country with very limited distribution for Gaggia - we're typically flooded with the cheaper Australian and Chinese alternatives - I've had my Evo now for almost 3 years and during my installation of my GM Pro, I decided to open up my boiler to check on all the flaking that's happening inside and to my utter surprise, it looks brand new! It should be very easy to replace with a brass boiler when it eventually does start flaking (and hopefully I'll be able to source one locally by then)!
I agree 100%. Get yourself the GCP. It makes awesome espresso. You might want to upgrade the stock filter baskets though. Just upgrading the baskets will already see a significant jump in shot consistency. While you're at it, get bottomless portafilter too, so you can fit the larger baskets (if that's your thing). I had my GCP for over a.year before I went ahead with the GaggiMate Pro mod. I completed my mod only a month ago and have never looked back! It's not only a huge upgrade, but the (Discord) community is awesome!
Do you think it would be worth to upgrade from A Gaggia Evo Pro to Lelit with PID controller? My gaggia is working just fine. I have a gaggia RM-15 crusher to go with it and have Normcore tamper and leveller tools. Or should I wait for a few years and go for La Marzocco which I don’t have the budget for yet.
If you like Gaggia, don't get the Evo. It has the coated boiler that flakes off AKA "Boilergate". Get the latest model Gaggia Classic E24. Breville Bambino Plus is usually priced about the same as the 840 but is a more modern design. Anna is a great quality machine but has slower warm up and longer transitions between brewing and steaming than Breville. You can't go wrong with any of these choices as long as you get E24 instead of Evo.
> Gaggia classic or classic pro (not sure of difference yet) This is the highest quality machine at your price point, but the hardest to use since it lacks a PID. But if you are handy, you can upgrade it for PID or go all the way with Gaggiuino or GaggiMate and it will have most of the features of a $4000 DE1Pro. If you want a machine that will work better out of the box, get Bambino or Bambino Plus. Regarding the differences: * Gaggia Classic was the OG, made from 1991 to 2018. * Gaggia Classic Pro, made from 2019 to 2022. Added a pro-style steam wand, replacing the Pannarello wand in the Classic. * Gaggia Classic Evo Pro, made in 2023. Used a teflon coating in the inside of the boiler that was supposed to reduce scaling. Instead, the coating flaked off with use, creating the "Boilergate" scandal. Stay away from this one. * Gaggia Classic E24 (sometimes called Pro E24 or Evo E24) made from 2024 on. Replaced the coated aluminum boiler with an uncoated brass one. If buying new, get the E24. Its brass boiler has better thermal stability than the aluminum one used in previous versions, which reduces the need for temperature surfing.
> Gaggia classic or classic pro (not sure of difference yet) This is the highest quality machine at your price point, but the hardest to use since it lacks a PID. But if you are handy, you can upgrade it for PID or go all the way with Gaggiuino or GaggiMate and it will have most of the features of a $4000 DE1Pro. If you want a machine that will work better out of the box, get Bambino or Bambino Plus. Regarding the differences: * Gaggia Classic was the OG, made from 1991 to 2018. * Gaggia Classic Pro, made from 2019 to 2022. Added a pro-style steam wand, replacing the Pannarello wand in the Classic. * Gaggia Classic Evo Pro, made in 2023. Used a teflon coating in the inside of the boiler that was supposed to reduce scaling. Instead, the coating flaked off with use, creating the "Boilergate" scandal. Stay away from this one. * Gaggia Classic E24 (sometimes called Pro E24 or Evo E24) made from 2024 on. Replaced the coated aluminum boiler with an uncoated brass one. If buying new, get the E24. Its brass boiler has better thermal stability than the aluminum one used in previous versions, which reduces the need for temperature surfing.
Reading between the lines of your post I can see that you already know the answer: If you are 100% sure you are going to do GaggiMate or Gaggiuino, then get a Gaggia Classic, otherwise get an Anna and be happy with its PID. If you are going for Gaggia, it might make sense to get a used one, since you will be discarding many of its components for the mod.
Modded GCP is better than Breville in all ways!
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