Jura - IMPRESSA Z5 (Models 13214, 13339, 13418)

It’s not simple but my 2008 Jura is great. Relatively fixable and parts are available. All the panels come off the sides for repairs. I refurbished it myself with a new brew group and grinder rings a couple years ago for under $200.

My manual espresso machine was leaking internally and I paid too little to bother repairing. Saw a refurb Jura Z5 for sale from an ex service rep for really cheap , and decided to give one a whirl. Hasn't skipped a beat in the past 2 years. When it breaks I'll get it fixed by him again, and if that's not possible I'll buy a new model.

I am just curious about durability. I used to have Jura Z5, which was a real ancient, worked great 15+ years without a major service.

I echo what everyone has said here, the brew group needs maintenance. HOWEVER, with a clear afternoon and $20 of parts on eBay I was able to rebuild the brew group on my jura impressa machine. That's pretty goddamn BIFL for me.

I’ve put a Bezzera Magica (no plumbing) and an Eureka Mignon Specialità in the office kitchen, next to a Jura super automatic. 80% of the staff prefers the Jura, while the rest makes for maybe 20 coffee drinks a day on the Bezzera. It works beautifully, I’d say.

ONLY a JURA for mama!

Completely different set up. The Jura is a super automatic: press one button and it’s makes you a tasty coffee (that the vast majority of people will be very happy with, myself included). The breville is a semi automatic that happens to have a built in grinder. You grind into a portafilter, level, tamp, insert the portafilter and then brew your coffee. Also probably very tasty for most people but with added variables. Both types require maintenance. VERY important maintenance. I had a super automatic (Saeco) for about 15 years until the control unit died and it was discontinued. Very tasty coffee. But I wanted less maintenance (almost none) and don’t ever drink milk based drinks so I was paying for features that I’d never use. So I got a level machine (flair 58), a nice grinder for less than (niche zero) and a nice kettle (fellow ekg pro) for less than what it would’ve cost to replace my super automatic. I control the grind size, the water temperature and the pressure to make my espresso. Morning coffees are now “more work” but I personally enjoy the ritual while recognizing it isn’t for everyone.

Do it! We got a jura super automatic from Seattle coffee gear 15 years ago. It's still kicking out great shots daily.

Just get a Jura. It’s the best full auto machine for the office. I’ve been at the offices of the largest orgs in the world for 25 years and even Jura is like top 5%. No one has semi-autos for public use.

Imo it's Jura or nothing.

My family has espresso machines. My dad is obsessed in the past two decade they have tried at least 6 or 7 different machines upgrading each time. Honestly the Jura fully automatic machines that grind, fill, dispense and eject grounds are the only way to go. Everything else is to much work. Are these machines expensive? Yes. But they make incredible drinks with the least work. You still have to clean the milk system, descale, and empty the water and ground catchers but compared is the rest it is worth it. If I had 3 thousand dollars I would have one of those. But my vertuo will suffice til then