IMPRESSA Z5 (Models 13214, 13339, 13418)

It’s not simple but my 2008 Jura is great. Relatively fixable and parts are available. All the panels come off the sides for repairs. I refurbished it myself with a new brew group and grinder rings a couple years ago for under $200.

My manual espresso machine was leaking internally and I paid too little to bother repairing. Saw a refurb Jura Z5 for sale from an ex service rep for really cheap , and decided to give one a whirl. Hasn't skipped a beat in the past 2 years. When it breaks I'll get it fixed by him again, and if that's not possible I'll buy a new model.

I am just curious about durability. I used to have Jura Z5, which was a real ancient, worked great 15+ years without a major service.

I’ve put a Bezzera Magica (no plumbing) and an Eureka Mignon Specialità in the office kitchen, next to a Jura super automatic. 80% of the staff prefers the Jura, while the rest makes for maybe 20 coffee drinks a day on the Bezzera. It works beautifully, I’d say.

ONLY a JURA for mama!

Completely different set up. The Jura is a super automatic: press one button and it’s makes you a tasty coffee (that the vast majority of people will be very happy with, myself included). The breville is a semi automatic that happens to have a built in grinder. You grind into a portafilter, level, tamp, insert the portafilter and then brew your coffee. Also probably very tasty for most people but with added variables. Both types require maintenance. VERY important maintenance. I had a super automatic (Saeco) for about 15 years until the control unit died and it was discontinued. Very tasty coffee. But I wanted less maintenance (almost none) and don’t ever drink milk based drinks so I was paying for features that I’d never use. So I got a level machine (flair 58), a nice grinder for less than (niche zero) and a nice kettle (fellow ekg pro) for less than what it would’ve cost to replace my super automatic. I control the grind size, the water temperature and the pressure to make my espresso. Morning coffees are now “more work” but I personally enjoy the ritual while recognizing it isn’t for everyone.

Do it! We got a jura super automatic from Seattle coffee gear 15 years ago. It's still kicking out great shots daily.