Jura - J10 twin Diamond Onyx EA

yes, especially the J10, which is especially expensive, especially in the US.

Hi I have the same machine. It's one of the best out there keep my grind setting at 4. I use 2% milk for the best froth for milk based drinks. Grinds are not all over as people suggested. Cleaning the brew group once a month submerged in water for 5 minutes. water filter is a choice. I use refrigerator water which has a filter plus I have no hard water. Lavazza supercrema beans I find the best for grind setting "4" for all coffees drinks but thats my taste. If you like very hot cappuccinos try the flat white to me provides hotter froth also on a regular cup of joe .You can use the hot milk setting just make sure you there to stop it.....lol. I have had philips latte go ,saco xelsis and( jura10 returned after a week). Youtube also has lots of videos too..... ....................

I had the Bosch I thought it was horrible because the drinks were not warm enough. It looked pretty, but that was about it. I had the JURA J8 which is one of the best options because you could get it from Costco with a generous return policy. It makes the best foam out there in my opinion. Although De’Longhi is very close. You should check out the Delonghi Rivilea what can also do two different types of beans and it’s very compact unit very high reviews and it’s on sale right now for Labor Day special for $1100 which is crazy cheap. The tree machine is the JURA twin! I did feel a KitchenAid is pretty good. Although the phone could be a little better, it’s good enough and the drinks are all hot so that’s huge and of course you have the two bean hoppers which is huge. I just remember picking the damn thing up hurting my back!!

I’ve put a Bezzera Magica (no plumbing) and an Eureka Mignon Specialità in the office kitchen, next to a Jura super automatic. 80% of the staff prefers the Jura, while the rest makes for maybe 20 coffee drinks a day on the Bezzera. It works beautifully, I’d say.

ONLY a JURA for mama!

Completely different set up. The Jura is a super automatic: press one button and it’s makes you a tasty coffee (that the vast majority of people will be very happy with, myself included). The breville is a semi automatic that happens to have a built in grinder. You grind into a portafilter, level, tamp, insert the portafilter and then brew your coffee. Also probably very tasty for most people but with added variables. Both types require maintenance. VERY important maintenance. I had a super automatic (Saeco) for about 15 years until the control unit died and it was discontinued. Very tasty coffee. But I wanted less maintenance (almost none) and don’t ever drink milk based drinks so I was paying for features that I’d never use. So I got a level machine (flair 58), a nice grinder for less than (niche zero) and a nice kettle (fellow ekg pro) for less than what it would’ve cost to replace my super automatic. I control the grind size, the water temperature and the pressure to make my espresso. Morning coffees are now “more work” but I personally enjoy the ritual while recognizing it isn’t for everyone.

Do it! We got a jura super automatic from Seattle coffee gear 15 years ago. It's still kicking out great shots daily.

Just get a Jura. It’s the best full auto machine for the office. I’ve been at the offices of the largest orgs in the world for 25 years and even Jura is like top 5%. No one has semi-autos for public use.

Imo it's Jura or nothing.

My family has espresso machines. My dad is obsessed in the past two decade they have tried at least 6 or 7 different machines upgrading each time. Honestly the Jura fully automatic machines that grind, fill, dispense and eject grounds are the only way to go. Everything else is to much work. Are these machines expensive? Yes. But they make incredible drinks with the least work. You still have to clean the milk system, descale, and empty the water and ground catchers but compared is the rest it is worth it. If I had 3 thousand dollars I would have one of those. But my vertuo will suffice til then

Jura bean to cup owner for 25 years. On my second machine. Original now in my holiday spot. Anyway. Beans go in and really good coffee comes out.