Pro Line Series Espresso Maker with Dual Independent Boilers (KES2102OB, 5KES2102, etc.)

We aren’t espresso pros by any means but have had the kitchen aid semi auto for almost a year now. It was $700 at the time and I used Rakuten while they had 10% cash back. We love ours. It’s easy to use and sometimes use it 3-4 times a day. Most of our friends have Breville and a few have jura (from Costco). They all seem happy with theirs as well. People do come over and say they like the look of ours better! I was leaning towards Gaggia for some time but recent reviews left me going for kitchen aid.

Your Philips 5500 also has the flat ceramic burr, same as the 800 . A lot of Philips machines have the ceramic flat burr. They are not special and they are quite small. The kitchenaids are quite but the whole machine is insulated for sound. My jura has flat burr ceramic discs, they are not quiet and need a thick towel to muffel them. You want a ceramic flat disc for a certain flavor profile and they tend to stay cleaner. Grinds on a super auto are not that great anyway so I think it would be difficult for anyone to pickup the nuances between a flat disc or conical grinder. The Jura z10 has a conical grinder while the Giga 10 has flat discs for example. The quietness of it is Philips marketing team getting way over their skiis.

Delonghi is 12g and clogs easily.   Try a Miele, KitchenAid or jura if you are really looked for decent espresso from a super auto. 

I don't think you actually what I am saying, since you proved part of my point already. They don't know how to use the machines, they don't know the limitations or how to maximize. I owned a TK02 and it was terrible at making coffee then again espresso. Why is a coffee roaster testing their own coffee? Why would someone used to a semi auto, and hopefully have a nuanced taste for espresso blindly write a review of super autos? Conversely, why not have someone who has no experience using a espresso machine review the SanRemo YOU espresso machine? **T**he article did not mention anything about how the machines were adjusted and why are they using specialty coffee? it is awfully specific and quite odd.

You can if you tried it.  Not about being a snob as super autos a lower quality anyway but you can taste the difference in the grind and dose size after the ratios are adjusted.   The z10s are a waste but a 15g KitchenAid/Miele or 16g jura on sale is a good deal. No one should pay more than $500 for a Philips.  The new kf seem to be a bargain. 

People in this sub just group think and most people haven't tried more machines than the one they own. For instance, a lot of people trash the Bosch 800 but I know for a fact it makes espresso as good as a zura z10 as I've tried them both side by side and in fact a few of us thought the Bosch was better and is about $4k cheaper if you get it on sale. I've also tried the top end kitchenaid but not side by side and remembered thinking it's not any better. Point being, I'm not surprised on your analysis here.

KitchenAid will make better milk then the jura e series.   The espresso is comparable to jura.  One isnt better than the other. Ka $800-1200

The KitchenAid machines on the insider pass deals is a no braner.  These machines don't appreciate with time. I wrote a long review on them a year ago.  It's 98% adjustable compared to jura being 100%. I think they killed it and 1200 or less a no brainer.  

I have a kitchen aid espresso machine and a milk warmer/frother from Amazon and it’s so good. I also have the ninja coffee machine which is great and got from target. Makes small or big batches and has the option to brew it for whenever you set it to.