Mini Cellini X

I have the La pavoni Cellini Classic (the one you’re thinking about is the mini cellini). Mine is a HX but yours is a single boiler so you’ll have to wait after pulling your shot to steam milk - 30-60 seconds I believe. I couldn’t be happier with mine.

I have the La Pavoni Mini Cellini, im a retired pro. It a little annoying it has a singular boiler.  But it pulls solid shots. Its fine.  The steam steam, its a bit awkward but nothing out of ordinary. Its not a professional machie, thats for sure. But it does the job.

If you are serious about learning how to dial in for best taste, you should avoid any of the Impress series machines. They try to automate the dial in process for you, but they are intended for those will accept the results of that automation, regardless of how good or bad the shots taste. That doesn't sound like you. The La Pavoni is a traditional heat-exchanger machine. Its technology is the same as espresso machines that were made 25 years ago. You can get a better value machine for a similar price. In Australia, the Breville Dual Boiler is the best value for the money. In the rest of the world we pay double your price for it, but it is still a well regarded machine. You can often find it on sale for around A$1000. That will leave you lots of cash left over for a really nice grinder. I would much rather have a BDB than a Mini Cellini. For a grinder, consider one of the Eureka Mignons, DF64, or Timemore 064s.

BDB over the Cellini for being able to brew the best tasting espresso. BDB has much better temperature and pressure control than any HX machine. BDB also has better control over pre-infusion than any machine in its price range. While the BDB has volumetric controls, it is best used in fully manual mode, just like the Cellini would be. The only difference is that you are pushing a button to start and stop the pump instead of lifting a lever. The bit of Googling I did indicates BDB and Cellini are sold for similar prices in Australia.

It will have to be a manual lever such as Cafelat Robot or La Pavoni Europiccola. Even $6000 La Marzocco machines use plastic for the water tank and cold water lines feeding the pump, as does the Cellini. Better quality semi-auto machines such as Cellini are all metal for the water lines and components that are hot or under pressure, but you can't avoid plastic in the water tank and in the water lines feeding the pump. If you are OK with this, there are better alternatives to the Cellini, which is traditional a HX machine using 25 year old technology.

HX is the brewing technology that is used in the Cellini and other espresso machines. It isn't directly related to use of plastic. HX technology has evolved considerably in the past 25 years, and HX machines such as Profitec Jump or Lelit Mara X are much more technologically advanced than the Cellini, and have better temperature stability. However, all semi-auto machines with pumps, such Cellini, use plastic water tanks, and plastic water lines to connect the tank to the pump. The only way to avoid that is to go with a manual lever machine that lacks both a water tank and a pump.

Modern E61 dual boilers do not require flushing. The traditional HX machines like La Pavoni Celina still do require flushing. Synch II has an electrically heated group which makes it much more temperature stable. It also gives you the option for flow control which doesn't exist on LM. If you are in love with LM but want to save money, get the Linea Micra instead. For most home users, the Micra makes more sense than the Mini.

Got the mini cellini great machine. Got it for 490€ because of some mishaps with the company. Great machine but the warm up time is like 10min or so. So if you want a quick and go than not the right machine. To get good coffee you need a very good grinder. Fingerprint magnet gets also easiky dirty. I would say if you have the time to master it than yes. Took me about 6 months to feel very comfortable with it.

I have this La Pavoni and I love the machine. Very good quality build and makes very good coffee. In my opinion, most e61 machines from recognized brands + a good grinder,are better choice than any Breville.

I was in coffee but not espresso. I tried a few Breville but I was very disappointed in build quality and one of them came with a malfunction so I returned them. This La Pavoni is my first espresso machine. It is a single boiler. The temperature is very stable and helped me to learn the machine. After a while I got an e61 thermometer which helped me further understanding the machine and playing with temperature surfing. Being a single boiler needs some steps and a few minutes to switch between brew and steam. 1-2 min. This is no issue for me, but you should consider this in your decision, based on your use case. As for grinder I have a df54 which works amazing for the price.

**What I'm after in terms of coffee and machine** \- Making 2-3 espresso drinks, generally in the morning. I use plant milk although I do not always use the steamer to heat it (sometimes I use the microwave, is just quicker, less cleaning) \- Prefer a quicker heat up time \- Prefer an aesthetic that is not the square, box-y stainless steel look, if possible, and a smaller footprint \- Already have a Eureka Libra grinder I bought on sale \- I would say I'm maybe medium-level ability and confidence with coffee-making. I'm not a beginner and not expert, definitely open to learning more but I'm not into onerous workflow either so I do prefer machinery that makes it easier and smoother for me to achieve consistent results without thinking too much \- Previously owned La Pavoni Cellini Classic and Eureka Speciality, so that's what I'm used to \- don't change beans too often, I will stick with one I like, prefer darker roasts, but I will try different beans at times, I'm not religious with the one bean lol **Rundown of machines I've looked at** I've just been to look at a **Nurri R type**, in person after seeing them online. They have the vibratory pump model in stock at around $AUD3200, and can get in the rotary model which sits jut below $5000. I looked at these because I liked the aesthetic and they seem in line with other Italian espresso machines quality-wise. While there I saw a **LeLit Bianca** rotary model demo'd and being picked up, they are also around $AUD5000. Also liked that aesthetic. And, yes it was quiet! Since I am looking for aesthetic as well as good espresso-producing, the owner recommended some retro-looking machines they are getting in, as a possible choice. This is a **Quick Mill Stretta**, around $AUD1500, which looks great but I know nothing about these machines and I gather it probably has less features, being at a lower price point. (I am about to google this right now.) Having had a La Pavoni Cellini Classic before, I had also considered the Cellini Mini, as the smaller footprint is desirable but I know it doesn't have PID which I understood as desirable. **Questions I got** I got questions. First off, does the vibratory pump model Nurri R type have PID? Does anyone know? I had seen it listed online as having PID but in the shop the guys insist it does not (however the rotary model does). How much difference does having a PID really make.. for one person making like 2 coffees? How much difference does rotary make over vibratory, and also do they hold resale value better? **Overall focus question** Overall I am trying to weigh up how much it is realistically worth spending. While I am considering machines across a wide price range, I feel like spending the money on a machine with the rotary would be overkill, but I'm after help with determining what features really matter for what I'm after Thank you so much for any help

I’d get the la pavoni but I have a separate high quality grinder and am ok with an e61 taking 30 minutes to warm up every time