Luna

Quickmill Luna is also a thermocoil.

Yeah I have a Luna, and besides the really bad teething issues I had at launch, it's been great ever since. The steam is not the strongest compared to a boiler, but still works fine.

A good thermoblock or a good thermojet (Ascaso Steel Duo Pid, Decent, Zuriga) will be as stable as a boiler machine.

See, that‘s what I mean. You never heard of the Ascaso Steel Duo Pid, of the Zuriga, Quickmill Luna or Maro? Because those are machines with thermoblock or thermojet technology that are established on the market (except the Maro maybe because it’s relatively new). And talking about value for the money: Two kettles in a fancy case are worth > $3000 like what La Marzocco is asking for their machines?

Ascaso duo & the lunar were both quite nice, was really happy with mine. eventually stopped brewing espresso, so i sold them but they were lovely machines i would recommend if someone cares about heating up times. i did, too.

I start liking the quickmills with their fast heat-up / thermoblocks. Only I need to make sure it's really just changing 3 screws to make regular baskets fit...

Chris Coffee for Quick Mill, they are great! Clive Coffee for Profitec. Clive also sells Lucca Tempo which is rebranded Pop Up.

I started out with a Quick Mill, but quickly found that machines using the E61 brew group are a class apart. I have been using a pre-owned Isomac Millennium together with a Bezzerra BZ05 coffeegrinder for at least 7 years now, love them both :-)