COROS - APEX Pro

You should take a look at Coros. I have an old Coros Apex Pro that still rocks 2 weeks between charges.

I have both - Fenix 7pro and AWU1. Have a Coros Apex Pro too if that matters. The Coros stays in a desk drawer. The Fenix I use for running workouts (it’s paired with Stryd pod). Strength workouts and everything else - AWU for the win. I can do without the Fenix, but like the way it displays the running info 🤷🏻‍♂️ If I had to give up the Garmin or it died, it wouldn’t bother me.

My hondo in November I ran the Coros Apex Pro 2 for 30 hours with all the sensors on full with the Bluetooth on too, and I still had like 27% left on the battery. In June I ran for 34 hours at a different hundie and had something like 23% left I think. From my experience with my Apex Pro 1, if you turn Bluetooth off that boosts the battery quite a bit, and same with heart rate monitor.

Definetly check out Coros watches too - their Apex Pro or Vertix 2 have insane battery life (like 30-40 days normal use, 60+ hours GPS tracking) and they're specifically designed for mountains sports with all the features you need for hiking/skiing at a lower price point than the Fenix.

my vote would be for a used/refurb fenix or enduro series, many can be found in local facebook marketplace or certified on ebay. my opinion is based on the following: I have owned a number of Garmins several forerunners, a fenix 3, fenix 5, fenix 6x. Instinct x2 Current setup in a 6x and pro hrm strap. My fenix 5 bricked two years ago and I sent it to Garmin for service. They told me it was dead and sent me a refurb 6x at no cost, that 5 was many years old and well out of warranty. That entire experience was really impressive. The battery life is pretty good still on the fenix and charge it every week or so. Since its 51mm I can read it without my glasses on I tend to lean towards chonky watches. Coros apex pro, just returned a pace pro today. The apex I owned was great and battery was insane, I picked it up used while my garmin was being serviced. eventually I missed the Garmin eco system. In the last few months I having been eyeing a new watch and had read about garmin going pay model so I again looked at Coros. I picked up a pace pro, unfortunately the first order was lost. It ended up being returned as I had a hard time reading it without my glasses. The screen was nice and bright at stock settings but in the three days I wore it ate through over 50% battery therefore having to charge less than weekly was a big change. From what I read they changed their settings and I could not toggle between 12 and 24 hour time on the watch or app I want military time on my wrist as I work nights in a hospital and regular people time on my phone. I had to switch my phone to military time for it to show on my wrist. Eventually I will more than likely pick up an enduro 3

Fenix 6X Pro. Bought a used one in good condition from FB marketplace a few months ago and super happy I did. Switched from the Coros Apex.

Congratulations! I had Forerunner 255 and it was my first Garmin. I love that watch and miss it from time to time. High value, have all the features you need, it has gpx navigation in breadcrumb line form, great battery life, and it's very light on the wrist. I have never experienced inaccurate HR, no cadence lock, and it keeps up with the HR changes. You might try to wear it higher on your wrist and tighten the strap. I also had Coros Apex, that one was all over the place. Often cadence lock, and often late to keep up with HR changes.

Yep, my Coros Apex does everything I need. Wear a Pixel 2 for a daily though.

I switched from Coros Apex to Suunto Race Titanium, while the Suunto is beautiful and has good gps functionality and battery life the HR is bad even for wrist based. Really disappointing the customization options and interface of the Suunto is way worse. If I had it to do over I would go Coros or Garmin.

People are being a bit mean, but basically if you are not having battery life issues with your Pace Pro, then there is ZERO reason to switch to the Nomad or Apex. They are likely all using the same processor. They will all have the latest features (basically the more detailed maps) that are missing on models with older processors. And they are all likely using the same GPS, and heartrate hardware. If you don't need multi-day gps tracking between charges (i.e. hiking, or ultra running) then you would likely find the Nomad or Apex a downgrade. The screens are lower resolution, less bright, and have much less vivid colors when compared to the Pace Pro.

watch will absolutely demolish your phone for battery life. i used to do the phone thing and it was fucking miserable always worrying about battery got a coros apex and that thing is stupid efficient. did a 10 day trip in the cascades last summer and only charged it twice the whole time. tracking mode was on for like 8 hours a day too the real move though is getting one with solar. buddy has the garmin fenix 7x solar and literally never charges it on trips anymore. just leave it on the top of your pack during breaks and it tops itself off. he did the entire jmt without plugging it in once phones are garbage for this use case tbh. gps chips in watches are way more power efficient and they dont have to run a whole ass operating system in the background. plus you dont have to worry about your actual lifeline device dying if shit goes sideways just get a decent garmin or coros and call it a day. your phone battery will thank you when you actually need to use it for emergency stuff

The new Coros Nomad!! I have a Coros Apex, charge the battery probably every 14-20 days.

The Coros Apex Pro 2 and Vertix 2 are the two Coros watches that happily track indoor and outdoor climbing. I pair mine (AP2) with the armband HRM so that I don't worry about scuffing the watch face from jamming or other clumsy things I do while climbing. Additionally, the Apex (not Pro 2) tracks indoor climbing, though I think it does not track outdoor multipitch. I get excellent data from both indoor and outdoor climbing, as well as exceptional battery life.

Saying all this, I come from a running and triathlon background, and I use a coros apex for running and swimming. It does everything garmin does for a cheaper price and way better battery life for the price point and has never crashed on me like all my previous garmins did. If you’re a serious biker I highly recommend a bike computer instead, it’s so much easier and safer to have the information visible if you’re consulting mapping. For me, all wrist HRM are mostly pointless, when I took that seriously I used a chest strap. I used to try to use them for CrossFit style classes and they did nothing useful.

Its about as good as you are going to get. Apple does lock certain features to apple watch only - so an apple watch ultra 2 is an alternative option you can look at - as does include recreational diving features - but not as much as the fenix 8, and you can cover the gaps the F8 misses via 3rd party apps - but does leave out the cohesive eco system garmin provides - and considering that you barely mention any smart features would then say you are looking at the right watch (definitely from fitness tracking and progress tracking point of view). Fishing - actually it does - you can log your catch and log the spots where you catch..... [https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-EECCAC99-90D6-4AB1-9A3A-EC433D3365E2/EN-US/GUID-A6881EE1-DB08-4922-925F-C7526EFAE8A2.html](https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/GUID-EECCAC99-90D6-4AB1-9A3A-EC433D3365E2/EN-US/GUID-A6881EE1-DB08-4922-925F-C7526EFAE8A2.html) and then you can used those saved location spots to navigate back to them at any point (can be very useful for fishing holes whether out on the water or fishing from bank/beach). All garmin have a built in coach for running - think C25K but does up to half marathon distance, then F8 incldues a Daily suggested workout option which you can then add a race event to it, to get the DSW to try and get you to peak for your event - so if you want a hassel free experience and a watch to build your training programme - hard to beat what garmin offers. Hiking- get offline maps and offline navigation (think satnav from car on watch) - so can create routes and get tbt directions on watch and via audio. Plus love the climbpro feature. Maps will work with all outdoor activity so can use for paddling as well as running / hiking etc (have a couple of paddle routes for when on canals / rivers especially canals in towns - great way of seeing parts of a town via water). So yes there isn't really anything else that comes close to matching it. Nearest alternative options would be apple watch ultra 2 (and losts of 3rd party apps); polar grit/vantage and coros pace pro /apex pro / vertix all include built in training systems and with training metrics and analytics like garmin to track progress; suunto at this stage is training metrics and analytics - though their suunto ocean is a full dive watch (garmin equivalent is the descent mk3 which is basically a fenix with full dive capability);

I love my coros. Does what I need a runni g watch to do and lasts days on a single charge.

Garmin (or coros) make a better running watch. Apple makes a better smart watch. If your priority is to use it for running with some additional smart watch features, go Garmin or Coros. If your priority is using your watch as an extension of your phone, go Apple.

I love my Coros as a navigation tool.  My phone very rarely comes out for navigation now.

My Coros watch has amazing battery life. I went on vacation for 10 days and knew I'd be fine not charging it.

I have a Coros watch. The batteries last forever.

I know I'm going to be the unpopular opinion here. I love my Coros but I've also tried Garmin and there's really not enough of a difference for me to recommend one over the other. I think it's whatever platform you're used to.

Decathlon gps900, best value Coros watch. GPS is accurate, app is great the bartery life still out lasts most watches on the market. Unless you want the very best tech, this watch is perfect.

Yes, all the major fitness watches can integrate with Runna. I use Coros and the Runna workouts sync with my watch and when I finish a run it syncs the data back to Runna!

I never regretted buying a Coros watch.

Nope, but I was researching about what watch to get a month ago. But from all I have seen, the 570 even though its new, people are still recommending the 965 instead of it since its a better value. I got COROS instead since I did not want to deal with the 2 years support life that Garmin watches get and subscription plans

I'm a runner/crossfitter and enjoy the Coros watch. The sleep tracking and HRV are more generous than my fitbit was. (I'll take it ha!))

The Coros fitness watches are very useful.

True, but my points are still valid. If Whoop have done anything that contravenes any laws they will find themselves getting challenged. If they haven’t, and I’d be surprised if their lawyers have missed any loopholes, then as I said, people can complain all they want but are left with the two options I mentioned. If they choose to leave I guarantee they will have some other issues with the platform they choose going forward. None are perfect. Good luck with whatever you do. I’ve gone with a Coros watch and the HRV4Training app. Covers all my requirements and is as streamlined as I can make it.

Yeah, my Coros doesn't seem to understand that kick sets exist. It also gets confused on sculling and some drills.