COROS - NOMAD

He might be saying that because of how expensive a new Garmin is. If money is no object for you and you're giving it to him as a gift then a Forerunner 970 is a far superior watch. If he really wants to try Coros, he should do it with his own money and buying it from somewhere that you can return it without paying a restocking fee or shipping such as REI (in-store returns) or Amazon. I'm coming from Garmin and I've been pretty happy with my Coros Nomad, though there are a lot of mostly UI quirks. Functionality wise it's FAR better than Suunto and close but not quite there to Garmin. There is at least 1 completely dealbreaking flaw for me which is that the fonts are way too small in certain places and can't be increased. I can't read my notifications at all which kind of kills all the smartwatch functionality for me.

Interesting choice with the Apex 4, I think the Nomad is a better and cheaper watch 🙂 although I'm a sucker for a ruggedized plastic watch.

I switched from an apple se2 to a coros nomad and I will never go back. My apple almost died when I was doing a trail race. We have the same concerns, battery life. I only switched because I really wanted the data, I think you probably should think about it. But the aw was a really good daily watch, notifications and all that jazz. But being away from that was pretty good detox too.

People are being a bit mean, but basically if you are not having battery life issues with your Pace Pro, then there is ZERO reason to switch to the Nomad or Apex. They are likely all using the same processor. They will all have the latest features (basically the more detailed maps) that are missing on models with older processors. And they are all likely using the same GPS, and heartrate hardware. If you don't need multi-day gps tracking between charges (i.e. hiking, or ultra running) then you would likely find the Nomad or Apex a downgrade. The screens are lower resolution, less bright, and have much less vivid colors when compared to the Pace Pro.

The new Coros Nomad!! I have a Coros Apex, charge the battery probably every 14-20 days.

This here is why I'm staying with Garmin for now even as I hope to see more competition -- just ordered the COROS NOMAD to try out but already know that I will struggle with the lack of variable screen brightness, a way to turn off the backlight once on, and other small things that seem nitpicky but make using the watch a smooth experience when taken in aggregate. 90% of Garmin's features may be faff to 90% of the people but the depth of customization is remarkable.  Anyway, this release looks worthwhile if the oHR is truly improved and if I were in the Suunto ecosystem and rocking the amoled I'd probably upgrade. Vertical 2 is a curiosity. If it too is amoled then I wonder what the difference here is.  My one must feature is labeled maps. COROS just went there. Too bad Suunto didn't. If they do I'll consider them. 

I have had every Garmin since the Fenix 3. Recently picked up the Race. Not sure I’ll go back to Garmin. The watch itself feels years ahead of Garmin. The Fenix line has more or less had the same case since its inception. Suunto app is more user friendly and cleaner IMO. Currently testing a Coros Nomad. If that doesn’t suit my fancy I will definitely be picking up the Race 2. (Still In the return period on the Race 1)

I love my Coros as a navigation tool.  My phone very rarely comes out for navigation now.

My Coros watch has amazing battery life. I went on vacation for 10 days and knew I'd be fine not charging it.

I have a Coros watch. The batteries last forever.

I know I'm going to be the unpopular opinion here. I love my Coros but I've also tried Garmin and there's really not enough of a difference for me to recommend one over the other. I think it's whatever platform you're used to.

Decathlon gps900, best value Coros watch. GPS is accurate, app is great the bartery life still out lasts most watches on the market. Unless you want the very best tech, this watch is perfect.

Yes, all the major fitness watches can integrate with Runna. I use Coros and the Runna workouts sync with my watch and when I finish a run it syncs the data back to Runna!

I never regretted buying a Coros watch.

Nope, but I was researching about what watch to get a month ago. But from all I have seen, the 570 even though its new, people are still recommending the 965 instead of it since its a better value. I got COROS instead since I did not want to deal with the 2 years support life that Garmin watches get and subscription plans

I'm a runner/crossfitter and enjoy the Coros watch. The sleep tracking and HRV are more generous than my fitbit was. (I'll take it ha!))

The Coros fitness watches are very useful.

True, but my points are still valid. If Whoop have done anything that contravenes any laws they will find themselves getting challenged. If they haven’t, and I’d be surprised if their lawyers have missed any loopholes, then as I said, people can complain all they want but are left with the two options I mentioned. If they choose to leave I guarantee they will have some other issues with the platform they choose going forward. None are perfect. Good luck with whatever you do. I’ve gone with a Coros watch and the HRV4Training app. Covers all my requirements and is as streamlined as I can make it.

Yeah, my Coros doesn't seem to understand that kick sets exist. It also gets confused on sculling and some drills.