Forerunner 645

How quickly does it charge? I've gotten used to popping my Garmin (FR645, FR945, Fenix 7s, then Fenix 7s Pro) on the charger for 10min or so while I shower and that is enough that I never have to worry about the battery. Think the same would be true of the Venu 4?

I love my 955S. I had the 645 prior and no issues there either.

I had an Apple Watch Series 3 for many years. Then I bought a FR645 to try alongside, just for running. Loved it so much I decided to go full Garmin with a FR745. Loved that watch so much, until I smashed it climbing 🤦‍♀️ Decided to upgrade to a Fēnix 7S SS because I wanted maps and I clearly needed the sapphire glass. I’ve had the Fēnix maybe 2.5 years now. Recently, I thought I might prefer an Apple Watch as I am now dealing with chronic illness and have not been able to engage in any of my usual sporting/outdoor activities for 6 months. I lasted 3 weeks with an Apple Watch Series 11 before coming back to my Fēnix. I just prefer the MIP display, the battery and the buttons. I don’t really care for smart features. Also the workout screens and maps but obviously not using those much right now. Sold the Apple Watch yesterday. No regrets.

Does all the stuff, predates two major price hikes that didn't come with a lot of value-added. The 65 got a new screen and the 70 got a bunch of new metrics that aren't really actionable. Garmin's comparison tool is pretty good, you can line them up and decide for yourself if the newer ones add anything that's worth it to you. In case you missed it, someone else shouted out the 255 which I think is the best value going in a Garmin watch unless you want maps.

Lots of options. Check out the Venu series, Vivofit, and Vivoactive. IMO the value-added aspects of the Forerunner are around running and other aerobic endurance sports. Are those relevant to you?

Just got a 265 I am happy with

Same here. Loved my 645 but I am happy with the upgrade.