Suunto - Vertical 2 All Black

Not only 1 right answer. Coros, suunto, polar are all great watches and honestly it comes down to user. I have suunto vertical which have medicore WHR, their 2nd version of vertical 2 and race 2 improved that. But coros vertix, apex 4 or pacer pro are also great options. Consider some models from polar aswel, like grit x2 pro, vantage v3, etc. Garmin have lots of options aswel with their forerunner and fenix and enduro series. My suggestion would be to check out dcrainmaker reviews and some yt reviews to see what watch can offer you. Then download their software and play on your phone to see how good/bad software fells for you. I am unaware what ios integration will be since i am an android user soo yea. And yea at the end its realy user based as long as you go with watch with dual band gps systemy onboard maps, and other stuff. Garmin is leading in maps since only on their watches you can reroute your route on watch itself, other brands requirw phone to do that + garmin have the most smarr functions. Soo yea also i am suunto user soo i would say suunto but some1 else might dislike suunto soo again not only 1 answer but many options. Garmin is the best but some dislike their app which is harder to use than some others plus price. Suunto is behind in smart functions + can be buggy (mine is flawless but many have problems with newer watches), coros i ve heard lots of complains witz their sensors for alltitude and gps but that might be just users who dont know how to use watch properly, etc. Soo yea read some reviews 1st.

can't say for garmin but general rule is like that * garmin have more features. you can route maps on watch which means you can set a point where you wanna go without use of phone while on suunto you need to do that via your phone which can be annoying in areas where singal is questionable. also suunto have no names on watch itself on map but yea, their maps re more snappier, faster, etc. * garmin have way more data. now some were locked behind subrsicption, i'm not sure which data excat. suunto have less data but imo better organized * application on phone matters for me alot and there suunto is just better. they have one app for everything which imo is more user friendly. garmin have more apps for each purpouse one and steeper learning curve (my father have garmin edge 1040 bike computer and yea) but thats just from user to user, at the end it matters how you fell. * smart functions there is no question that garmin is better. suunto is really behind. you will get basic notifications with opiton to control music on your phone and call my phone function and function to turn down phone call with a SMS and thats pretty much it. garmin here have huge edge with their stuff * battery life on the other hand, here suunto wins no question at all! while in smart watch mode they re about the same, maybe 2 or 3 days difference, on gps mode there is just too much difference IMO, garmin is more than 2x behind in battery. now, does that matter to you? are you gonna do some multi day hikes or really some long lasting stuff like running 100km or you just in general wants more battery life? thats up to you. * as of GPS accuraccy, i can't really speak but i ve doubt you will be dissapointed by any of those watches. GPS recievers came soo long way in few last watch generations on all devices including Polar, Coros, Suunto, Garmin, even Amazifit and others that you can't go wrong with any of those devices in terms of gps quality. yea there re some minor + - offs bettwen watches, for example i can compare Vertical vs Fenix 7x pro sapphire on same route we logged 4,45km on Fenix vs 4,6km on my Suunto, I ve started my watch slightly faster soo there might be 50m. we also both logged slightly different alltitude gain, me with around 1065m alttitude gain vs my friend fenix 1059m allitude gain, my highest point on watch was more towards official readings of 1242m (it showed 1243m while my friend logged i think 1236m or similar soo yea, if you are like "well well, garmin for 800€ can't beat vertical from suunto i ve got for half the price" kind of attitude then sure, be my guest but in reality those re soo minor difference that if you re gonna argue on that..... yea. but just to show you what i ve meant * HR data i ve heard that suunto really did a big step foward with Race 2, still some minor problems but they really solved that issues Vertical and Race have. but imo me as some1 who do more trail runs / hikes / bike rides i just took my polar h10 with me and this is by far most accurate data imo. still just to point out suunto issues * can't say for sleep tracking or quality of life features since i'm not using that, maybe will start in future. soo yea at the end imo its more towards your usuage case. me as a trail runner or bike rider or hiker i preffer battery life, snappier maps and overwall better application more than garmin extra fuctions. plus yea in my case suunto vertical costed me 400€ while back then garmin forreruner 955 and 965 costed around the same but imo inferior watch with far less battery on gps mode + plastic desing with only gorrila glass which imo is bad for hiking specially if you go some via ferrata route or more demanding rocky area where its real fear to strach your watch. and garmin 7s solar sapphire glass costed me 600€ and yea, that was far too off to spend on. soo yea, your user case will determine at the end what you wanna buy, simply as that, what you preffer more, what u value more in your watch bcs at the end you can be happy with both options or just hated them soo its really hard to say.

Not only 1 right answer. Coros, suunto, polar are all great watches and honestly it comes down to user. I have suunto vertical which have medicore WHR, their 2nd version of vertical 2 and race 2 improved that. But coros vertix, apex 4 or pacer pro are also great options. Consider some models from polar aswel, like grit x2 pro, vantage v3, etc. Garmin have lots of options aswel with their forerunner and fenix and enduro series. My suggestion would be to check out dcrainmaker reviews and some yt reviews to see what watch can offer you. Then download their software and play on your phone to see how good/bad software fells for you. I am unaware what ios integration will be since i am an android user soo yea. And yea at the end its realy user based as long as you go with watch with dual band gps systemy onboard maps, and other stuff. Garmin is leading in maps since only on their watches you can reroute your route on watch itself, other brands requirw phone to do that + garmin have the most smarr functions. Soo yea also i am suunto user soo i would say suunto but some1 else might dislike suunto soo again not only 1 answer but many options. Garmin is the best but some dislike their app which is harder to use than some others plus price. Suunto is behind in smart functions + can be buggy (mine is flawless but many have problems with newer watches), coros i ve heard lots of complains witz their sensors for alltitude and gps but that might be just users who dont know how to use watch properly, etc. Soo yea read some reviews 1st.

I’m in the same boat. The Fenix 8 lag, mapping, waypoints, searching for courses, etc. is a dumpster fire. I did pre-order the vertical 2 and have high hopes.

I really liked the Suunto Race 2 but the data discrepancies between the watch and the app were glaring and frustrating. Suunto seems to spend all their time making gorgeous watches with no time invested in the software or data integrity. They also never engage the community or seem to have any beta testing. I’m not ok with that. If I just wanted a gorgeous watch that told me the time ok fine but we buy these devices to track activities, provide health monitoring and give us accurate information…no? I was trying to get away from Garmin but ended up going back to a Garmin Fenix 8 as pound for pound, I think it’s the best thing out there. Edit: I’ve been quite vocal about the data discrepancies as have others. I’ve also felt that people are somewhat giving them a pass because the watches are so amazing to look at and wear. While they are very well built and perhaps the best designed watches available, they’re just not reliable. The accuracy in metrics like Resources, CTL, TSB and sleep tracking just suck. One shouldn’t have to wonder if it’s the app or the watch that has the correct data…it leads one to think they’re both wrong. The sleep tracking is also crappy as it doesn’t detect awake time and it counts sitting on the couch as a nap. I was very disappointed not just in the data but the lack of any update from Suunto. They’re totally silent. The only redeeming quality of the Race 2 and perhaps Vertical 2 is the heart rate sensor seems quite good. Garmin is far from perfect but at least they provide quite regular updates and the data is quite accurate overall.

I’ve been quite vocal about the data discrepancies as have others. I’ve also felt that people are somewhat giving them a pass because the watches are so amazing to look at and wear. While they are very well built and perhaps the best designed watches available, they’re just not reliable. The accuracy in metrics like Resources, CTL, TSB and sleep tracking just suck. One shouldn’t have to wonder if it’s the app or the watch that has the correct data…it leads one to think they’re both wrong. The sleep tracking is also crappy as it doesn’t detect awake time and it counts sitting on the couch as a nap. I was very disappointed not just in the data but the lack of any update from Suunto. They’re totally silent. The only redeeming quality of the Race 2 and perhaps Vertical 2 is the heart rate sensor seems quite good. Garmin is far from perfect but at least they provide quite regular updates and the data is quite accurate overall.

I'd recommend a Suunto for the long-term investment in a platform and training system. Suunto, having been acquired by a Chinese company, has been infused with cash and this has played out in their app development as well as the watches they've been releasing. The Vertical 2 (AMOLED) virtually matches the first gen. Vertical hour to hour in battery life. Not to mention the Run which is the best value fitness watch on the market at this time. Suunto Coach is a good way to structure your training and the Suunto Plus store offers a ton of utility to Suunto watches (sans Run). On the flip side, Polar has floundered in recent years, lacking innovation and repackaging features into new hardware. The new M3 is a nice looking watch and is the best value of their newest releases, but they are so far behind in the digital realm, it's honestly depressing. Sure, they are updating Flow, but it feels too little too late. They have some training guidance, but unless FitSpark has had a MASSIVE update I've missed, it recommends really simple workouts that lack adaptation to current training which something like Gemini or ChatGPT could outclass given the right prompts.

The above comment is not true. Coming from Enduro 3 to Vertical 2. Vertical has a much simpler UI, much faster maps scrolling. And the Suunto app is better, But know that Suunto makes sportswatches and not smartwatches, so yes you will nt have all the bells and whistles from Garmin, but you will have something you can rely on

>How is the overall integration between the Vertical 2, and an iPhone?  suunto does not respect focus modes. eg, if you have DND on your iphone when you sleep, or a focus mode whilst at work, or whatever - suunto doesn't care and will send you all notifications. you can either turn notifications on or off, unlike garmin/aw. also, reading a notification on your watch does not clear it on your iphone, unlike garmin/aw. so you'll see the same notifications twice. >How is the app? How simple is it to finish an activity and upload it to Strava or Trainingpeaks? all automatic but be aware that there's a longstanding bug with suunto workout uploads: [https://forum.suunto.com/topic/12624/laps-are-not-exported-from-app-to-strava-and-fit-file-correctly-breaks-runna](https://forum.suunto.com/topic/12624/laps-are-not-exported-from-app-to-strava-and-fit-file-correctly-breaks-runna) >How easy is it to use the app to plot a route while in a new city, or a trail run, send that route to the watch, and then follow directions on the watch while running or cycling? personally i hate the route planner on the app, but there is a beta online thing: [https://routeplanner.suunto.com/](https://routeplanner.suunto.com/) turn-by-turn directions on the watch are ass IMO. i turned them off. the mapping is good, other than that, although there is a zoom/trails bug that may or may not be a concern: [https://forum.suunto.com/topic/13311/map-rendering-and-trail-visibility-after-software-update-2.43.8-.12](https://forum.suunto.com/topic/13311/map-rendering-and-trail-visibility-after-software-update-2.43.8-.12) >Finally, does Suunto offer any type of 'try it for 100 days' thing where I could order a Vertical 2 and see how I like the watch and the ecosystem without being stuck with a $1000 watch in the event I want to stick with Apple? i would confirm with your local cs agent but at least for the UK i was able to return a used watch within the 30 day returns window.

Hi ! I'm surprised to see the Vertix 2S on your list. I got it, and honestly it's really outdated: interface not smooth, few new features, and a price too high for what it offers today. And even for autonomy, it no longer really has any advantage. For less money, the Suunto Vertical 2 does much better: top screen, fluid interface, very comfortable cardio sensor, and 65 hours of battery life in precision mode. Quick comparison: Vertix 2S: – Slow interface – No AMOLED screen – Too expensive – Actual autonomy ~50–60 h in dual frequency – 62 g (nylon) / 88 g (silicone) Vertical 2: – Autonomy ~65 h in precision – Very readable screen – Fluid and modern – 74 g (titanium) / 86 g (steel) ➡️ Similar or lighter weight depending on the version, and not annoying thanks to the flat cardio sensor. Conclusion : At the same or lower price, the Vertical 2 is clearly a much better choice than the Vertix 2S today.

Wow so long with the battery? Is that from 100% to 0%, or do you charge it at a higher level (like 20%)? How many hours of activity do you have per charge? I get with the Vertical 2 like 13 - 14 days till ~18% with about 9 hours of GPS-activities.

Yeah, so my question really was: do you get 18 days with a cycle from 100% to 20%? Or is it estimated for the case you use your watch till it's 0%. 18 days for 100% to 20% is better than is specified by Suunto. How many hours of GPS do you record with this battery performance? 0 hours?

970 and the awu are not going to be ideal. Both will have less than 24 hours of tracking. They are fine if you dont mind charging everyday but the fenix is the better alternative. Look into the suunto race 2 and vertical 2 for 50-60 hours of tracking. Enduro is the best probably but not in your budget.

I have a vertical 2 and came from a fenix 8 and a long line of garmins. The software is fine, and the app is significantly better. One key feature it offers is the easier ability to compare over time, or compare your routes. It’s simpler than the fenix in that you have less metrics but in truth after the novelty has worn off on the Garmin I didn’t look at all the derailed metrics - even DC Rainmaker notes that pro trainers don’t use them. I like the simpler metrics and the app is light years ahead of Garmin. For note: I haven’t had the issues people describe below. Just my thoughts nothing else.