4200XL

I have the 4200 and every time I fight that tank out of the overcrowded cupboard, I wish I‘d gone with a smaller one. And you should know, that many inserts can only use the smaller bowl. The full bowl is only for kneading and the rotary knife. Everything else is the mid or small one. And by design, all these bowls are very limited in capacity, as the rim around the hole in the bottom, where the axle from the motor comes through, is not very high. I have a few Magimix products and I love the very high quality. But the food processor is only half as versatile as the marketing implies. And it needs a lot of space.

I’ve never used a 3200 in person, but the motor of the 4200 is plenty powerful - sometimes even too much. It’s not easy to blend or grind something to a state in between solid and powder. Two really annoying things about all Magimix food processors: * While most parts can go in the dishwasher, there’s no way to position the bowls that prevents them from forming puddles. More often than not, you end up having to run half the machine again. I solved it by taking a drill to the lower rim of the bowls so water can drain when they’re angled. * The big outer bowl has two layers with space inside, and food particles will find their way in there from day one - with no meaningful way to get them out again. So be prepared for tiny pieces of grated carrot inside the handle. I got mine in a limited run with some additional attachments: * The extra press kit for juicing firm fruits and vegetables works very well, but it’s rather small and a real pain to clean. Still, if you’re into fresh apple-carrot-whatever juice, go for it. * The citrus juicer… well, it works. But unless you regularly make litres of fresh orange juice, you might want to skip it. * The dicing & French fries kit - I love it, and it works surprisingly well. It’s also very easy to clean, as they even designed a little detachable comb to remove potato bits that get stuck in the grid. If you ever make your own fries or like larger cuts, this one’s great. As for the default attachments: * The rotary slicers, dicers, cutters, and blades are all top quality. Mine have been through the dishwasher for years and are still very sharp. * The plastic dough hook hasn’t seen much use, but its edges are already bent and chipped. I believe there’s a metal version available separately. * The whisk is… well - I tried it a few times and found it pretty terrible. It’s very flimsy, and the results are nothing to write home about. My KitchenAid makes perfectly stiff egg whites in no time - at a quality this whisk will likely never achieve. If you need additional attachments, check second-hand marketplaces. People buy these machines (or get them as gifts 😆) and soon realise they don’t need 90% of what came in the box. That’s when they sell things off - often basically unused. So overall: if you really want a food processor, the Magimix is a very solid, high-quality investment - with a few downsides. What I’m less sure about is whether it’s the right choice if you’re mainly baking. 🤔 A year before the Magimix, I bought myself a KitchenAid - commercial grade, with bowl lift, safety grill, stainless attachments, and a powerful DC motor. For dough, it’s just perfect. 2.5 kg of bread? That thing doesn’t even flinch. It also makes perfectly stiff egg whites in no time. I had a smaller KitchenAid before that, but with just 1 kg of dough, it would constantly struggle and wobble across the countertop. The big one is a different league and the Magixmix does not play in the same one for kneading. I have a few attachments for it that I use all the time: * The old-style grater * The simple pasta roller * The Mockmill (a real stone mill for grains - slightly slow, but very good, compact, and easy to store) * A meat grinder from Grossag (Germany), which is stainless steel and much better quality than the KitchenAid version I can’t recommend the food processor attachment they sell - it’s just not worth it, and actually the reason I ended up buying the Magimix afterwards. And excuse my unsolicited kitchen ramble - I'm not only a nerd when it comes to work, and my weekend has already started. 🤭 If you want to know anything else, feel free to ask anytime!

Magimix is great and imo the 4200XL is sort of the best of both worlds. Its big bowls are big enough for big food processor jobs like making doughs, grating, hummus, etc. The small bowl is good for smaller batches of sauce. If you have the space, a setup like that is much better than just a small one, since food processors really shine most in those "big bowl" use cases imo That said, for a lot of sauces/marinades, a blender would actually be better than a food processor. So depends what exactly you mean by that. The fact that you said emulsion points towards a blender generally.

The Breville is a clear step up from the Cuisinart, although 16 cups is quite large. The only brand I’d put on the same level as the Breville is Magimix and they have a great 14 cup model. If you have the budget, I’d definitely go for the Breville or Magimix. The Cuisinart is also a solid machine and a good value for money though—just not as powerful or well-designed and with fewer accessories.

You shouldn’t try to use one machine for both. They’re different. The Magimix is great and seems much more suited to your needs though if you’re going large batches of prep. A 7 cup food processor really does not go far and KA is not known for their food processors. If you want something cheaper than the Magimix, I’d recommend the Cuisinart Custom 14. It’s a step down, but a good value I guess I’m confused how you’re making your daily smoothies rn if you don’t have a blender.

Of those, Sage is easily the best brand to go with, but 9 cups is quite small. Why isn’t Magimix in the running? European brand (same company as Robot-Coupe) and the best overall food processors out there imo

Magimix and Sage are generally pretty similarly priced if you compare apples to apples. A 14 cup Magimix will obviously be significantly more expensive than a 9 cup Sage though. You really want to be in the 14 cup range for a food processor. Any smaller than 12 cups at the very smallest and it significantly limits its usefulness.

> is it the sort of appliance where it’s worth spending a bit extra? Absolutely. It’s one of the only appliances I can think of where the absolute top of the line version (Magimix 4200XL or 5200XL) won’t be past the point of diminishing returns for most people. If you want something cheaper, a Cuisinart Custom 14 is a noticeable step (or two) down, but a good value. If the Cuisinart isn’t within budget, I’d honestly rethink if it’s something you need since anything cheaper than that is gonna have a lot of limitations and/or shortcomings.

Wattage can’t really be used to directly compare appliances. Magimix is so much better than Ninja it’s not even funny, although I would get the 4200XL instead of the 3200XL

Magimix or Breville make the best 14-16 cup models money can buy imo. You hear the Cuisinart Custom 14 recommended a ton as well and, while its still good, it’s a marked step down in just about every way, but it does tend to be a lot cheaper, so that’s a good option for bang for your buck.

Peeling, cutting French fries, and even dicing aren’t really core food processor competencies. The Breville you mentioned is the only good quality one that has those features afaik A Magimix is as good if not better overall, but it can’t really do those first three things. I would really ask yourself how important those use cases are and if a food processor is the only way you can achieve them

Magimix 100%. If you can afford it, it runs circles around a Cuisinart in every way.

A large, high power food processor (like a Cuisinart Custom 14, Magimix, etc) does a very good job kneading doughs under many conditions, but it’s not a complete replacement for a mixer because it’s not great at things like batter, whipping eggs, etc. Of course, a food processor is your best bet for stuff like hummus. If you don’t have the space or budget for both a food processor and a stand mixer, you can do a food processor plus a *hand* mixer instead for a lot less money and minimal tradeoffs in terms of capabilities.

Magimixes are great (my mom’s Cuisinart Custom 14 feels like a poorly designed toy compared to it) and come with a smaller bowl insert. Certainly doesn’t take up less space than the Cuisinart though. imo big food processors are the only ones worth having though.

If you’re really, really serious about making doughs, look into a Magimix. It’s significantly more expensive, but *so* much better. More powerful, much better warranty iirc, way more thoughtfully designed, and more (actually very useful) accessories included. The Cuisinart Custom 14 is a solid value, but beyond that I genuinely don’t understand why so many people rank it the best food processor

imo this is actually one of those rare cases where the high end option isn’t well beyond the point of diminishing returns. Yeah, having used both I’d say the Magimix is at *least* twice as good as a Cuisinart Custom 14.

If budget isn’t a problem, Magimix is fantastic and checks all your boxes Breville is also very good but in the price range Cuisinart if you want something cheaper. Still good (and good value), but a marked step down from the other two

No. It’s just way too much machine for 99.99% of home cooks. It’s great if you need to do enough processing for 200 covers, but if you’re just trying to mince some mushrooms for your family of four, it’s way less suitable than a Magimix or any other high quality home machine.

Pardon oui je parlais d'un 4200XL, donc un mixeur/hachoir/tranchoir. Probablement intuable et vraiment bien fabriqué (une partie ou totalement en France si je dis pas de bêtises). Trouvé sur LBC à 100eu tout neuf par chance à Lyon. Après soyons honnête, vu mon approche de la cuisine le robot est sorti vraiment que quand c'est necessaire, tu fais tellement de chose avec un couteau une planche et du temps. Mais les carottes râpées vitesse lumière, faire une mirepoix pour un ragoût, un houmous, les purées de légumes, persillade, battre quelques blancs... C'est très bien, plus grand qu'un TM, plus facilement lavable, et franchement pas besoin de cuire dedans. J'ai un mixeur plongeant pas cher pour compléter quand il s'agit de faire des purées/sauces très lisses directement dans la poêle ou la casserole, ou même émulsionner (bouillon ramen, mayo...), mais un blender très puissant serait encore mieux et je l'envisage. Tout ça coûte un peu, donc si ton budget est limité je me concentrerais sur la base matériel de cuisson inox à ta place, et un petit robot mixeur d'occaz style Magimix et compagnie si tu en vois des vraiment pas cher.

Je vois beaucoup de personnes qui commentent pour soutenir l'idée donc je prends le temps d'écrire pour au moins un peu contrebalancer. Ancien propriétaire d'un monsieur cuisine +, plusieurs Thermomix autour de moi chez la famille, des années 80 à nos jours ! Je trouve que ces appareils ne gagnent pas du tout de temps, et qu'ils font un peu tout mais beaucoup moins bien. Le seul truc qui me manque c'est la cuisson vapeur, le panier vapeur est très grand sur le monsieur cuisine, et ça cuit pas moins bien qu'un cuiseur dédié. Pour le reste j'ai remplacé par un Magimix moderne trouvé sur le bon coin, un mixeur plongeant, un rice cooker du tonnerre avec un petit panier vapeur, des casseroles, poeles inox... Faire une petite soupe, mixer un truc à la rigueur, mais pour saisir/cuire précisément je trouve ça pas pratique du tout. Je pense que ces appareils ont un public, puisque pleins de gens adorent mais j'ai toujours trouvé ça moins bien que les outils traditionnels, ou dédiés. Pourtant je suis pas encore un vieux c*n !

I had a Cuisinart 14 cup but burned it out making pizza dough. Got a Magimix (the home line from Robotcoupe) and its great

I bought a used Magimix nine years ago and it's still going strong.

I have a magimix and it's one of the best appliances I've got in my kitchen, I used to buy cheap ass 40 dollar food processors that didn't really do much, the magimix does everything I need do. Awesome and simple yet sturdy device.

Robot coupe or their residential side - Magimix A good ol’ cuisinart is a good choice too. The other box store brands are toys. Don’t even consider them.

Avoid like the plague. Especially these type of devices. Vitamix blender and a cuisinart or Magimix food processor is the way to go if you’re serious about BIFL. Pick whichever one you use least frequently and store that in the cabinet to save counter space.

Magimix or cuisinart. Or if you’re really serious Robot Coupe (who owns Magimix)

Vitamix blender, cuisinart or Magimix food processors. /thread Avoid shark, and avoid gimmicky “combo” machines. They’re all junk.

Robot Coupe > Magimix > Cuisinart > everyone else