MCHOSE - Ace 68 Turbo

\#1 - name brand keebs are ass for gaming. I would never buy a Razer for the simple reason that you need Synapse, which lowers gaming performance and instantly disqualifies it. Corsair is overpriced as hell for what you get, and also requires iCue - again disqualified. And this from someone who owns (checks his closet...) 7 Corsair gaming keebs. For gaming, hall effect IMO is a must. Then it depends on a lot of things. 60-65-70-100%? Using for work and gaming / gaming only...? I have separate gaming and work keebs. So my currently gaming go to is an Mchose Ace 68 with TTC Dragon Lord switches (my favourite gaming switches currently), a knock off Holy alu shell and some basic mods (base plate, tape, switch pads, extra poron, some sorbothane, stab mods, teflon mods, extra lube, foam and butyl, etc) , although none are really necessary. Mchose has the best software of all the cheap boards I've tried (Aula, ATK, Made, madlion, etc - though woothing, epo and keychron are superior), sounds great and is very reasonable. If I were buying now, I'd place a preorder for the new Mchose Ace 68 Turbo. $8USD preorder gets you a $40USD discount ($32 USD net) on the new board when it launches in early Nov, and it has 16k polling and 256k scan rate (frankly pointless), but does feature an alu case, profile switch button and a volume control, along with many additional layers of damping for $99USD. At that price there is zero comparison to a "name brand" board.

Mchose Ace68 with TTC Dragon Lord Switched and Scyrox V6 with ATK 99G

I've been using a low-end HE keyboard for a while, replacing my old high-end standard mechanical keyboard. And I have to say, you DO feel a difference once you get used to it. They basically eliminate input delay from your keypresses. Normal keyboards need to hit an actuation point on the way down or up. These keyboards will register and de-register keys in a manner that is practically instantaneous (With rapid trigger of course). This usually manifests as multiple-frames of input latency reduction. Besides, I personally think they feel much better to play on cause it's a more intuitive input even if you don't care about stuff like "key overlap" because the keys just perform their actions much faster when your brain sends out the signal to lift or press your finger. And as a reminder, I'm using a cheap hall-effect keyboard (Mchose ace68, around 70$).

Dude, just use an HE keyboard for 5 minutes. This is not a subjective thing at all. If you think HE keyboards only give you a minimal advantage over normal keyboards, your counter strafing ability is probably atrocious to the point where it doesn’t make a difference for you. The bigger reason why pros haven’t migrated as fast as monitors is because you have to slightly change how you counter strafe on an HE keyboard and that’s an intimidating prospect. However it’s overblown and you’ll feel comfortable after just a few practice sessions.

Zywoo still plays on 240, as opposed to 360 which you seem to know as being a bigger difference compared to HE keyboards even though you've never used an HE keyboard. If you know 360 is better and gives an advantage bigger than HE keyboards (according to you), would YOU say that Zywoo is holding himself back? Surely you see how irrelevant that argument is. HE keyboards don't turn you into a counter-strafing god, they just reduce input latency and produce a more intuitive input (inputs are registered closer to when your brain presses or lifts the finger) I don't even know why I keep coming back to this argument. You literally just need to use an HE keyboard for 5 minutes instead of insisting that they somehow don't matter. Literally everyone who's used HE keyboards will tell you that they are objectively, measurably better and its hard for people to go back once they start using them. I won't be responding further.

Yes. Even a cheap one like the Mchose Ace68 like I have will completely destroy a keyboard with preset actuation points. It's hard to go back once you get used to counter-strafing on an HE keyboard.

MCHOSE ACE 60 and 68 i have seen in tests to have really low latency among the closes to the wooting for a much lower price. These are hall effect keyboards and if you want a 75% keyboard they have one called Jet 75. I ordered a Jet 75 myself last week and am waiting for delivery. With Topographic keycaps and Kailh Magnetic God Switches i got it for about $70 with Swedish taxes included.

Mchose makes good options. the ace60, ace68, and jet75 depending on size you want Monsgeek fun60 ultra TMR is also a good option over the ace60 if you want a 60% keyboard (the lower tier fun60s are pretty much always worse than the ace60 counterpart)

None of them are HE, so they are gaming keyboards in marketing only. And TKL means 80% not 65% so the Logitech options aren't what you want there either. My recommendation for a budget gaming keyboard at that size is the Mchose ace68, though I don't know it's availability where you live.

Mchose ace 68 is v good and budget friendly

I wanted budget HE keyboards and found the Ace68 and FUN60 to be great budget options if you're interested

Yeah kinda late now I have an MCHOSE ACE68, keychron has good options for me now, before it didn't really. Thanks for the reply tho, dunno what took you here

Did some digging. Think I'll go with the Mchose Ace 68 since it's copied from Wooting 68HE and has software customisation. 😀

Yeah. Think I'll stick to Mchose rather than Mad60. Both are Chinese and therefore more or less same reliability wise. On a side note, I'm also in the market for a competitive gaming mouse as well, would you reckon Razer Deathadder V3 is a good choice in terms of adding more deaths to enemies in PUBG? I know it's a good choice, I mean to ask if you have any alternative suggestion if any? Choosing DAv3 due to it's large size(i have large palm) and popularity among gamers who vouch for it.

I only had mchose 68, kzzi75 and aula f75, and so far, everything's fine

ace 60 pro true 8k and only .6ms difference than wooting and if you want more better than ace 60 pro? go with ace 68 best keyboard for its performance only bad about this kb is the software is not that good but the performance/latency? 200% better than my old apex pro tkl 2023

Mchose ace 60/68 or jet 75.

Yes, and switches ofc. They both don't have extra latency when multiple keys are pressed at once (most cheap boards have that issue) and both have pretty low latency.

HE keyboards tend to be on the clackier side of the sound spectrum. So far the thockier HE switches seem to be those that come from Gateron. Modded boards that have full metal cases, tons of foam or silicone inside with gasket mounts would definitely always have fuller, deeper sounds. For type feel, here's some prompts to consider: - how does it compare to your previous keyboard? - Do you feel the keys rattling/moving much when you rub against or press them? - Do you find it more easy or tiring when doing prolonged typing/gaming? On a separate note, this is probably one of the best value for money HE keeb buys you can find and I've seen lots of great reviews of Mchose keebs, especially their Ace 60/68. Congrats on the good find and hope it works out great for ya.

All the boards at the lower price range are about the same in terms of performance. Whatever differences they have are likely negligible and probably wouldn't be noticed unless you are a super high end gamer or have multiple keybaords/testing equipment and are able to do side by side analysis. Aula Win60/68, Fekker Fighting68, Mchose Ace60/68, IROK ND63, Monsgeek Fun60, and some others that are all pretty similar and can be had for the same price. Some have some different layouts, maybe different aesthetics with keycap colors, some may have some different switches...but they are all similar enough. For example, I don't know if I would be happy with a keyboard without arrow keys. If I am just gaming with it, I could probably mostly get by without, but since I also do other things with my gaming keyboard, I need arrow keys. So I would personally go for one of the 68 or 63 options out of that list. But that is what my personal preference is. You may rarely use the arrow keys and wouldn't miss them if they were gone, or could adapt to using FN + some other keys to get that functionality. Make sure you look into the software of whatever keyboard you choose because software is very important with these keyboards. Go watch videos of people using it, showing off the software, doing reviews of the product. Make sure the software includes features you want, so if you want SOCD, make sure it is included. Make sure the UI is usable for you, or that you could figure it out with some effort. Make sure things are written in a way that you can understand them, I have watched a couple of reviews where the English translations were rough and confusing to where if you don't know what DKS, SOCD, Mod Tap and some other things are before going into it the software doesn't really help you out. Make sure you trust the company and/or software if you are installing things on your PC. And make sure that you trust that they will continue to update the software if necessary, and/or maintain the website if they are using web based software.