SteelSeries - Apex Pro TKL Gen 3

Op1 4k v2, huano tbspd switches, with either artisan dots or corepad pros (not decided which i like best yet, love the dots but can feel a bit quick some days, corepads opposite issue. May try some full sized jades) on a type 99 + steel series apex pro tkl gen 3, I LOVE this setup, can’t see a reason I would change. I know the keyboard is no Wooting but meh, does the same job

Bought the new steelseries tkl pro gen 3 for 250$ and let just say I’ve been looking forward to going to work so I can type… it’s so good! I also play videos games with it and the actuation modifier is so nice, I mean I really feel faster than before while playing fps games.

Apex Pro TKL Gen 3 or Wooting 80HE are the absolute best

Something hall effect. Apex pro tkl gen 3 used for \~80 bucks is a good deal, and theres always stuff like the drunkdeer g75, wooting 80he, etc you can get

I like my Apex Pro Gen 3. Hardware wise it’s even nicer than my first Gen Apex Pro - software wise it got worse (no onboard memory anymore) The quick alternating keypresses are nice and it can be so sensitive that simply putting my hand on the key presses them.

I highly recommend giving a hall effect keyboard a go. I got one of the steel series ones, and I'm never going back to mechanical.

I had the wooting 60he but I needed a bigger board and bought the apex pro gen3, love the keyboard nothing I can do to customize it other than a new wire and keycaps https://preview.redd.it/40xjornvlnqe1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c737d453ed571e3dbeb552c4d84dcebb9319b5d6

I'm using the Mchose Ace 60 Pro with the TTC Uranus Magnetic SE switches. It's under $50. Simple and does the job. The software has gotten much better since launch. I used to complain about it but it's so much better. Not perfect but it works as it should now. Low bar i know. Sounds decent. Good weight... better than my more expensive Apex pro TKL ( didn't last as long for the price ) There are better so I'm told. TMR switches are modern and the direction gaming Keyboards will be going. One aspect of TMR, it uses less power which means they don't need a big battery in them and can go wireless and last a decent time before recharging. Mine is wired. Something to consider. He may want a clean, wireless Keyboard. I'll post the link to mine. It's pretty inexpensive. [https://www.mchose.store/products/mchose-ace-60-hall-effect-magnetic-switch-gaming-keyboard?variant=49303600628007](https://www.mchose.store/products/mchose-ace-60-hall-effect-magnetic-switch-gaming-keyboard?variant=49303600628007)

Really struggling. I wanna buy a new gaming keyboard because my Apex Pro TKL just isn't working well anymore. So, I wanna ask for suggestions. I want a gaming keyboard that is nice, but no wild custom build or anything. Just a solid and simple keyboard. Willing to go for most prices just give me recommendations for like budget, mid-tier, and high-tier prices please. Thank you this is urgent

Have a few ones, my current main one for games is the Steelseries Apex Pro TKL. Wouldn't have gotten it if it hadn't been a HE keyboard for $80 new, there were a couple other options at the time but I couldn't justify the price difference. The software is way too bloated. Though I'll admit, if the app wasn't unreliable, the volume control features seem nice. I already have a hardware solution to control sound channels individually, but if I didn't the Steelseries software solution seems almost as good. Would I recommend it? Probably not, unless you find a really good deal on the mini or TKL. I doubt the Womier 68HE, the Madlions MAD60HE, and other variants are too reliable, but they're so much cheaper than the alternatives, have browser software, and other competitive features. Seems worth the gamble (unless you're not a fan of the blatant copying they did of Wooting)

You've put a lot of thought into this. I wish everyone was as diligent. The main risk with HE switches is that they might not be around for the long-term. Although Hall Effect keyboard have been produced for decades, that was a very niche technology. Since the popularity of the Wooting has brought HE into the mainstream, there is sudden broad support for it. But there is also a competing magnetic technology in TMR (Tunnel Magento Resistance). There is no way of knowing whether either technology will stick around for the long-term. HE detects voltage changes induced by a magnetic field, whereas TMR detects changes in resistance. Both work in very similar ways, though HE draws more power (still negligible in overall terms though). The magnetic fields in both technologies are extremely small. They don't cause interference with anything. They have to be small, because you wouldn't want one key interfering with another. The most that I have seen is slight interference with a device that was placed on the keyboard wrist rest. I wouldn't place the keyboard near a strong magnetic source, but other than that very unlikely scenario, there is no concern about the magnetic fields involved. PBT does not contain phthalates. It's short-chain ortho-phthalates that are problematic, because they are absorbable. Long-chain tere-phthalates are not problematic. PBT is a polyester, very similar to PET (polyethylene terephthalate) used in food packaging. But as you don't like the feel of PBT, that's not a concern anyway. The main concern with ABS is that it tends to become 'shiny' more readily than PBT. Skin oils and repeated use tends to make the surface wear to a shine. There's no concern about ABS wearing out over time - just the shine. The wrist rests that come included with some keyboards tend to be middling at best. About the only advantage they can offer over a third party one is that some of them attach to the keyboard. Otherwise, you're always better getting your own separately. The primary reason to use a magnetic or optical keyboard for gaming is latency. All mechanical keyboards suffer from contact bounce. Indeed, all mechanical switches, regardless of use, do. When two metal surface initially touch, there is a very short period during which they bounce - they bound and rebound against each other. Accordingly, all mechanical keyboards have a debounce time (typically around 5-8 milliseconds) where they ignore the input of the switch, until the contact bounce ends. Setting the debounce time too low results in chatter. Because magnetic and optical switches have no contacts, they have no contact bounce or debounce time. So they are, in theory, quicker to respond. One thing that is rarely mentioned when talking about magnetic keyboards is that they are inherently hot-swap. This means the switches are not soldered to the circuitboard, so you can replace them without tools. Many mechanical keyboards are also hotswap, though they require adaptors to make that possible. The concern about magnetic hotswap is that some keyboards are factory-calibrated so you can't easily replace switches yourself. Also, there is no agreed standard for magnetic switches, so those from one manufacturer aren't likely to be compatible with those from another. Grrr. SteeelSeries uses OmniPoint switches, which are rebranded Gaterons, so replacements are relatively easy to find. Corsair uses MGX Hyperdrive switches (save us from these names), which you cannot buy separately - Corsair says they will make switches available for sale, but it's been a while. A large concern with magnetic keyboards is software. In most keyboards, any software is largely irrelevant unless you want to play with lighting patterns. But because the actuation point is adjusted through software, you need software to control that. And that, I would say, is a reason to choose a big brand, rather than a Chinese keyboard. Keyboard software is often a minimally-viable-product, poorly programmed and buggy. It also tends to be infrequently, if ever, updated. With the software being so important to magnetic keyboards, you do want some assurance that the software will endure. As the manufacturer with the longest experience of HE keyboards, Wooting undoubtedly has the best software. But their 80HE isn't a true TKL layout, lacking some keys and employing a 'compact' layout that changes the position of some of the keys. I would generally recommend the Wooting if you can get used to the layout. You're looking at the Corsair K70 Pro TKL and the SteelSeries Apex Pro TKL. Both are basically fine. It's hard to recommend one over the other as they're so very similar. As I'm sure you've read, some of the switches on the K70 aren't actually HE switches at all - they're normal mechanical switches. If you would like all the switches to be HE, get the SteelSeries. If you want the extra knobs that the Corsair has, get that.

Pc tower itself, probably around 2K as a very lowball. I would say 1200, but inflation and tariffs (if you’re American) have raised prices along with low availability on parts. THAT is for building a pc. Prebuilt I’d say around 1500-2.3k. The minimum size monitors would be 27 inch Monitors. Those are around 150 (MSI) - to 500 (Samsung like mine). Both can do 4k, both can do 200+ fps My keyboard is a Steelseries apex pro, it was 200 at the time. My mouse was around like 40 or 50 bucks, a g5 hero with customizable weights and a couple extra buttons and a dpi button. You can get both a keyboard and mouse for under 200 if you’re on a budget. And there’s half keyboards that fps players use that are cheaper.

SteelSeries worked for me... Apex Pro keyboard and Aerox 5 mouse....w Novo Pro. Their GG and Sonar worked well with little bloat, everything served a function (key actuation points were important for me).

I very much like the Hall Effect one I got from SS. Apex pro I think? Can't remember but it was 'spensive. Adjustable actuation distance on the keys is great.

I have steelseries apex pro and its the same for me. currently considering to buy new keyboard because the backspace sometimes not registering keypress. wont buy another steelseries

What the poster above implied is that stock of course contactless are the smoothest. When you lubricate a good mechanical switch, however... I beg to differ. I've laid hands and used Wooting HE keebs and Steelseries Apex Pro and I still feel my lubed Marshmallows are smoother (and sound several degrees of magnitude better). Thomas has great reviews and a soothing voice but can be mildly infuriating with some opinions. However, they're his opinions and he's entitled to them and he's mostly correct :)

Wooting or steelseries apex pro. Every other keyboard is a waste of money if you mainly play fps. I bought the apex pro about a year ago and I cannot stress the difference between this and classical mechanical keyboards enough. They feel like trash going back to.

Bro you don't know what you are talking about. Wootings keyboard or the steel series apex Pro is a game changer and a completely different experience than standard mechanical keyboards with the classic red or brown switches. If you are a serious cs player you absolutely should consider buying such a keyboard instead of the other trash gaming keyboards that exist.

Steel Series apex Pro. Amazing switches and the same technology as the wooting keyboards. Any other mechanical keyboards suck in comparison. I used cherry reds before for over 10 years.

Second this I got my Apex Pro in near perfect condition for like 50Euro from some mum off FB marketplace bc her kid didn't like it, there was so many good deals on keyboards

If you don’t want to plunge into the fully custom KB rabbit hole, top tier is probably Steelseries’ Apex Pro. I don’t think i would recommend it though, it’s quite expensive and I had quite a bad experience with their customers support, which is a shame for a 200€+ keyb.

I have been really pleased with mine for about 2 years. Then it started to go bad (bad led and key getting stuck), and Steelseries support has been absolutely awful. I’ll wait for it to definitely die then I switching to another one.

I use a SteelSeries Apex Pro... But I don't play ladder xD Still, excellent keyboard.

Just bought a Wooting80he, but I had a steelseries apex pro for years and it served me very well. Steelseries often go on sale. If you want smth more customizable go to drop.com.

Spent I think about $120 on my steelseries apex pro. Hall effect keyboards are nice but probably not for everybody. Rapid trigger and snap tap (some games) are nice features to have esp for competitive shooters.

***Endgame Gear KB65HE*** if youre looking for something 60% and budget. Any from the ***Wooting*** lineup, they're the go to for hall effect and essentially made it a 'thing'. ***Steelseries Apex Pro series*** if you want something more 'premium' with lots of software capabilities. Theres lots of hall effect keyboards, you can find them as cheap as 40 bucks on amazon in the UK, but i wouldnt settle for less than the Endgame KB65HE. All that I mentioned are hall effect and if you want to prioritise movements, you need hall effect.

SteelSeries Apex. It's big AF and I like it.

I've literally just swapped out my 80HE for a Lemokey P1 HE and couldn't be happier. On paper the 80HE has better raw performance , but there's zero difference to me. I wanted one keyboard to do everything, and I hated typing on the Wooting. Not to mention the build quality is just terrible. I've also used a Razor Huntsman V3 Pro and hated the typing on that too. Steelseries Apex was pretty good, but again, just wasn't it and I hated the looks. The P1 has so far been the best all round keyboard I've ever used. Some might be better in certain areas, but they're nowhere near as well rounded. It's also the best typing feel on a HE keyboard I've ever used, and beats out 98% of mechanicals I've had.