yeah he's missing out for not trying ATK F1 Extreme/Leviatin for real. Even with big hands, it fits in my hand perfectly (20.5x11). Even more surprising since OP lists Scyrox V6 as one of his favorites.
which f1 v2 did you order, i went for the f1 v2 extreme coral pink for the fast charging, 54h20 mcu because it can handle polling rates above 1000hz on its own due to having usb high speed built-in, and omron opticals, i have the f1 v1 leviatan already and the coral pink is a new colorway so im hyped)
My collection is probably the same size as yours , i'd like to know which one is your favorite (mine ATK F1 Leviatan) and how would your perfect mouse be (shape,weight etc)
Endgame mouse is not out yet , it would be a wireless ZA11 . I currently switch between Mchose L7 Ultra+ and ATK F1 Leviathan which both are pretty well build and the shape fits my hand okay , meaning that i don't get any cramps or something like that but a modern ZA11 would be fantastic
I never really liked the Mad R, the shell is so thin that it feels like it's gonna break in a heartbeat even if it doesn't, same goes for the Scyrox V8. Mchose L7 or ATK F1 Extreme / Ultimate feel much better imo.
I bought an ATK F1 Blazing Extreme, and its not flat front to back. Very noticeable on glass. Take that as you will. I may be an exception.
When I search online about my issue, there are others with identical issue.
How does the weight feel compared to the M4 though? I hated the M4, in part, because it somehow felt heavier than my ATK F1 despite weighing less on the scales.
That and the M4 is wayy too narrow for me. Is this a normal mouse width?
I also recommend the ATK F1 Extreme Leviatan, I've been enjoying that lately. It's a very lightweight symmetrical, that is about 8-9mm shorter than the VV2 Pro.
My copy paste list
* Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$
* VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$
* Hitscan Hyperlight: Solid middle hump with great curves keeping it solidly usable for any and all grip styles. One of the best on market at 80$
* ATK Blazing Sky F1: Stolen variation of an earlier model of The Hitscan it's got a much larger mid hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$
* Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$
* Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$
* Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$
* VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro.
* VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1.
* Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$
* Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$
* Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$
* ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range.
* Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$
* Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950.
* Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$.
* Scyrox V6: Very Solid HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals, with a splid rear hump and hourglass greay for all grip types. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$
* Attackshark R6: Same shape and weight and sensor as the Scyrox V8 and Sora V2 and the only real mouse from Attackshark I reccomend for 55$
* ATK A9: Best Superlight clone on market feels extremely good in hand can be found for as low as 20$ but I reccomend at least getting the Plus for a 3395 and coating at 30$, if you go beyond that it can be a very good exact GPX clone with 8k polling.
* Mchose M7: Zowie U2 clone very solidly built great for claw with a larger rear hump can be found for 50$
* Ipi Float: traditional hourglass shape much akin to a finalmouse on a budget, solo for roughly 60$
* ATK U2: A zowie U2 clone that's extremely accurate and feels good in the hand massive changes for a class shake with a large rear hump.
* VGN Y2: NP-01s come that's very solid, good ergo shape that's in-between a full ergo and a symmetrical one.
* Ajazz: the entire company makes a massive variety of shapes. While their quality is by no means the best they have a varied amount of shapes with considering all at budget prices just try to get a 3395 model and don't expect a coating.
For all ATK or VXE always try to at minimum get ones with a coating and 3395 sensor. If you can't tell which model had that check their list they always have in their websites. It should be a big box of all their model differences.
I actually went through every mouse I own to trying to determine which once I played best with a while ago. The list is: Viper V3 Pro, Lethal LA-1, Glorious D 2 Pro, OP18K, ATK F1, Scyrox V6, ZeroMouse Blade and Mchose L7 and L7+.
What I mostly learn from this testing of all my mice and this list is that I prefer more mid-range humps and mice that I can grip more with something of a fingertip grip that pulls in to being a relaxed claw grip, smaller and more lightweight mice work best for me and as far as ergo shape goes something about the glorious D 2 Pro is simply outstanding for me only the sensor didn't have random spin out issues. I do only have the regular Pro model not the 4K one and I've stayed curious if buying the 4K one would fix my issues.
19/10 hands with a fingertip grip where I pull the mouse into my palm for a stable grip and I've found quite a few mice I would say work amazingly for me.
I've tried bout 50 or more so ask me anything I'd be happy to answer!
Lethal LA-1: My favorite shape that I've ever used, grade ergonomics with the fantastically large rear hump a little bit bigger than an OP18K that just fills out the hand perfectly, It works excellently for my grip but the coating on it was not the best and at this point I'm waiting on the Pulsar Crazylight version with great anticipation.
OP18k: I don't even like this mouse, the shape doesn't fit right to me and I can't make it feel comfortable, but despite that I play outstandingly on it.
Glorious D 2 Pro: Easily the best ergonomic shape that I've ever tried something about it just works for me in a way that other ergonomics have failed to capture, but the quality control on the mouse is terrible and I began to use one that doesn't have random sensor jumping.
ZeroMouse Blade: I tried a couple different fingertip options on market and none of them have exactly fit the way that I grip a fingertip mouse the way this one does, I just happen to have the exact finger placement to make this one of the best feeling mice in hand on market.
Viper V3 Pro: My favorite larger mouse that put all the right curves and all the right places, a little large for my preferred grip style but it does work.
Mchose L7: An all timer shape that's basically an X2 mini with a little more curves, weight and specs and everything just feels fantastic.
MchoseL7+: A little bit thinner at the front with a nice solid rear curve hump, makes the palm contact feel excellent when I need it.
Teevolution Terra: I've never even used a G703 but for palm contact this mouse shows me why people would. Same as the OP1 it doesn't quite feel right but that doesn't matter when I play amazingly with it.
Mchose A7 RE: It's a GPX Dex clone but with a few changes that make it a fantastic palm grip mouse. Logs of good area for my thumb with excellent placements for my index fingers afterwards, overall solid for me
Orbital Pathfinder: Really getting to dial in a shape means the Pathfinder can be whatever you want and for me it's an amazing testbed for trying shapes I'm interested in before I buy them, at the same time the mouse itself when your testing the shapes always feels fantastic no matter how weird the combo.
ATK F1: a Viper Mini styled shape (stolen from Hitscan) that ends up nailing what it sets out to do while allowing for nearly any grip to work, I've stayed on it longer than expected after getting it.
I've used dozens more, https://gearz.gg/KnoxR you can find them here and I'm happy to answer anything about any of them!
Most ATK and Mchose mice are below 50$ and I prefer them over some mice I have that are well over three times the price. Just get at minimum a 3395 and mouse with a coating, I prefer my 25$ ATK Superlight clone to a real Superlight.
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