ATK - Blazing Sky F1 Ultimate

ATK is not even cheap brand tho. Preorder of mine was 80USD plus Tax plus Import fee.

Shipping was 14USD, 10EUR import fee, 18eur eur tax. Dongle included, 3950 chip with better battery life and better tracking on glass pad. Hitscan comes from China too for the same price and same tax and import fees.

If you are interested in Hyperlight you might just as well look at ATK F1 Ultimate. Same price and better components

The ATK F1 is the most similar mouse to a mini that I tried, but I wouldn't recommend it cuz the build quality is pisspoor. The sides of mine cracked whenever I put just a little bit of pressure. And tbh, the hpc01m is nearly a 1:1 mini clone, the only diff is that it has the top and rear bumps shape of the gpx . The best way to describe it is a gpx shape with a viper mini dimensions, so kinda like a 'gpx mini' lol. Which is the perfect endgame for me since it's the best of both world If you're into custom mouses and you got money to waste, pmm sell a 1:1 mini clone with viper v2 internals. It's overpriced asf (>200$ if I remember), but if your only concern is the mini shape then you should check it out

Atk f1 , hitscan hyperlight for more of a viper mini esque shape or for a bigger mouse the viper v3 pro

I'd also mention atk f1, great shape but also flat sides. Though it's probably not recommended no more thanks to USA!!!!

there are 2 versions, the ultimate using fe opticals and the ultra I think is using omrons

I got the Ultimate with their own optical switches, heard that the switches suck but I wanted to try it out myself, would recommend the omrons tho but it's slightly pricier

IPI Float 88 is an absolute king at around $50 in my eyes, but its design(holes) might not be to your liking. I’ll suggest some other good options around $60: ATK Blazing Sky F1, VXE Mad R (you might be able to find the Mad R Major on sale for around $60, which is a better version of the regular VXE Mad R), Incott G23 (a GPX Superlight clone with hot-swappable switches), Attack Shark R6, and ATK Blazing Sky X1 (a Viper V3 clone). They are all using solid sensor, are lightweight and using better switches (in my opinion, i'm just omron hater) than Logitech for example. They are all wireless as well.

Also the ATK F1 has a more rear sensor placement which I find hard to get used to compared to the hitscan

Oh, I'm referring to the Maya X. Excuse me for confusing you. I really like the RVM and decided to go ATK F1, but I found that it is very small for my medium hand 18×9 cm. I'm just wondering if it is similar but bigger RVM.

18.5 cm x 10 cm hands. I love the HTS shape. I've always gripped my mouse in a claw fingertip hybrid where I fingertip at rest but I move my arm forward and pull the mouse into a claw grip when I feel I need it. I couldn't necessarily tell you when I do claw my mouse or fingertip it specifically but I change subconsciously depending on the situation. I think it's the ideal grip for me since I get the stability of claw when I need it but also the precision of fingertip when I need that. One of my first mice was the Viper Mini and this might be where I got used to this, but between wanting wireless and just wanting to buy mice as a hobby I got into different shapes, small and big, ergo and ambi, but I returned full circle to the ATK F1 Ultimate for the Viper Mini shape for this reason. At least until a week ago when my HTS Ultra came in. I ordered the HTS Ultra, not for the shape, but rather to feed my chase of the lowest weight possible. I have to say though, even they are both small ambi mice and do great for a claw fingertip hybrid, the HTS shape is better for me by a large margin. The main thing that is improved for me is how the far back of the mouse tapers off. The HTS hump falls very quickly at the end while the Viper Mini shape feels more flat and gradual. This basically means that the mouse contacts my palm higher up compared to the Viper shape. Which, while I don't know exactly why, feels a lot more stable. If I had to guess though, it would be that the thenar part of my hand is pretty meaty and less contact in that position means my thumb is less restricted and thusly that moving my thumb does not interfere with my claw. So I love this mouse and would have no problem recommending it to someone who knows they like the HTS shape from the past, but I honestly don't know if I'd recommend it to someone over the Hitscan Hyperlight based off Gwolves Customer support, especially if they don't have any reference to know if they like one shape over the other. I just trust Hitscan more than ATK or GWolves based on what I hear from each of them. Overall though I'm really glad I took the chance and experimented with the shape. The ATK F1 has no spot on my desk anymore and I'm kinda glad to not have to deal with the issues I've had with it. Secondary mouse is the Waizowl OGM Pro V2 only for casual games where I'd prefer comfort. I palm grip it in those scenarios and appreciate the flatter hump falloff specifically for palm.

I wouldn't really say it feels cramped per se. If I never fingertipped the Viper Mini shape would be great for just a claw as I can get a good claw on it. Specifically for the grip style I have though where I switch between fingertip and claw it's very difficult to just pull back the mouse and get into that claw

I have tried around 40 mice in last year. I have 480 hz OLED with 9800x3D and RTX 5090. I got late into mouse hobby but I've tried most of the current premium lineup and some budget options. Lamzu is not as responsive as Logitech or Razer disregard of whatever you may think. Lamzu 3950 feels the same as ATK 3950, as Mchose 3950 as any other brand WHICH USES THE SAME OEM SOFTWARE ONCE THEY PUT A BATCH ORDER. Any company WHICH DOES THEIR OWN SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION like Logitech or Razer FEELS DIFFERENT. Disregard of sensor position or DPI deviation, in fact latest software on both GPX2 and V3Pro allow you to make 1 to 1 DPI. Mouse responsiveness is different and I would say that Razer, Logitech and Zowie are THE best in terms of software implentation for 3950 sensor. Razer has 0 delay Motion Sync which feels more responsive than Lamzu without motion sync (while Lamzu with Motion Sync is pure trash) Zowie also has bad motion sync but other than that feels good. Logitech is probably the oldest and the most weird but once you get used to it it is quite good as well. You may trust numbers or be delusional because "hardware is the same" but in hand feeling is different.