ATK - Blazing Sky F1 Ultimate

If you are interested in Hyperlight you might just as well look at ATK F1 Ultimate. Same price and better components

Have the atk f1 ultimate v1, everything is great except battery life and the v2 solves that problem.

18.5 cm x 10 cm hands. I love the HTS shape. I've always gripped my mouse in a claw fingertip hybrid where I fingertip at rest but I move my arm forward and pull the mouse into a claw grip when I feel I need it. I couldn't necessarily tell you when I do claw my mouse or fingertip it specifically but I change subconsciously depending on the situation. I think it's the ideal grip for me since I get the stability of claw when I need it but also the precision of fingertip when I need that. One of my first mice was the Viper Mini and this might be where I got used to this, but between wanting wireless and just wanting to buy mice as a hobby I got into different shapes, small and big, ergo and ambi, but I returned full circle to the ATK F1 Ultimate for the Viper Mini shape for this reason. At least until a week ago when my HTS Ultra came in. I ordered the HTS Ultra, not for the shape, but rather to feed my chase of the lowest weight possible. I have to say though, even they are both small ambi mice and do great for a claw fingertip hybrid, the HTS shape is better for me by a large margin. The main thing that is improved for me is how the far back of the mouse tapers off. The HTS hump falls very quickly at the end while the Viper Mini shape feels more flat and gradual. This basically means that the mouse contacts my palm higher up compared to the Viper shape. Which, while I don't know exactly why, feels a lot more stable. If I had to guess though, it would be that the thenar part of my hand is pretty meaty and less contact in that position means my thumb is less restricted and thusly that moving my thumb does not interfere with my claw. So I love this mouse and would have no problem recommending it to someone who knows they like the HTS shape from the past, but I honestly don't know if I'd recommend it to someone over the Hitscan Hyperlight based off Gwolves Customer support, especially if they don't have any reference to know if they like one shape over the other. I just trust Hitscan more than ATK or GWolves based on what I hear from each of them. Overall though I'm really glad I took the chance and experimented with the shape. The ATK F1 has no spot on my desk anymore and I'm kinda glad to not have to deal with the issues I've had with it. Secondary mouse is the Waizowl OGM Pro V2 only for casual games where I'd prefer comfort. I palm grip it in those scenarios and appreciate the flatter hump falloff specifically for palm.

I wouldn't really say it feels cramped per se. If I never fingertipped the Viper Mini shape would be great for just a claw as I can get a good claw on it. Specifically for the grip style I have though where I switch between fingertip and claw it's very difficult to just pull back the mouse and get into that claw

there are 2 versions, the ultimate using fe opticals and the ultra I think is using omrons

I got the Ultimate with their own optical switches, heard that the switches suck but I wanted to try it out myself, would recommend the omrons tho but it's slightly pricier

I like it. Slightly different grip from cobra.

My personal favorites Ergo: * ATK Z1 or Terra Symmetrical: * Beast X max (not under $120) * Mchose L7 Ultra (similar to Pulsar X2, OP1, Sora v2 etc) * Mchose K7 (Viper clone) * ATK F1 V2 ultimate (Viper mini clone) I would probably go for the Mchose K7 for your palm grip out of these.

I'd go with the F1 Ultimate V2

Oh I thought you meant like all had some kinda issue, but actually mchose has good QC so they probably got unlucky. This random but what do you think of the l7 ultra vs the f1 ultimate v2?

I also saw the results on rings.com which is why I bought a l7 ultra and it is great but I also bought the ultimate v2 (still waiting on it) My question is the new mcu wouldn't provide lower motion latency?

The atk switches on the v2 ultimate are actually surprisingly good, feels similar to omron opticals

ATK F1 v2 ultimate I tested and own GPX2, Viper V3 Pro, Endgame OP1 and XM2, Scyrox V8. And ATK F1 was the winner.

I never really liked the Mad R, the shell is so thin that it feels like it's gonna break in a heartbeat even if it doesn't, same goes for the Scyrox V8. Mchose L7 or ATK F1 Extreme / Ultimate feel much better imo.