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Reddit Reviews
DimitriDfHave the atk f1 ultimate v1, everything is great except battery life and the v2 solves that problem.
Elus1veSGthere are 2 versions, the ultimate using fe opticals and the ultra I think is using omrons
I got the Ultimate with their own optical switches, heard that the switches suck but I wanted to try it out myself, would recommend the omrons tho but it's slightly pricier
Lanurus18.5 cm x 10 cm hands. I love the HTS shape. I've always gripped my mouse in a claw fingertip hybrid where I fingertip at rest but I move my arm forward and pull the mouse into a claw grip when I feel I need it. I couldn't necessarily tell you when I do claw my mouse or fingertip it specifically but I change subconsciously depending on the situation. I think it's the ideal grip for me since I get the stability of claw when I need it but also the precision of fingertip when I need that. One of my first mice was the Viper Mini and this might be where I got used to this, but between wanting wireless and just wanting to buy mice as a hobby I got into different shapes, small and big, ergo and ambi, but I returned full circle to the ATK F1 Ultimate for the Viper Mini shape for this reason. At least until a week ago when my HTS Ultra came in. I ordered the HTS Ultra, not for the shape, but rather to feed my chase of the lowest weight possible. I have to say though, even they are both small ambi mice and do great for a claw fingertip hybrid, the HTS shape is better for me by a large margin. The main thing that is improved for me is how the far back of the mouse tapers off. The HTS hump falls very quickly at the end while the Viper Mini shape feels more flat and gradual. This basically means that the mouse contacts my palm higher up compared to the Viper shape. Which, while I don't know exactly why, feels a lot more stable. If I had to guess though, it would be that the thenar part of my hand is pretty meaty and less contact in that position means my thumb is less restricted and thusly that moving my thumb does not interfere with my claw. So I love this mouse and would have no problem recommending it to someone who knows they like the HTS shape from the past, but I honestly don't know if I'd recommend it to someone over the Hitscan Hyperlight based off Gwolves Customer support, especially if they don't have any reference to know if they like one shape over the other. I just trust Hitscan more than ATK or GWolves based on what I hear from each of them. Overall though I'm really glad I took the chance and experimented with the shape. The ATK F1 has no spot on my desk anymore and I'm kinda glad to not have to deal with the issues I've had with it. Secondary mouse is the Waizowl OGM Pro V2 only for casual games where I'd prefer comfort. I palm grip it in those scenarios and appreciate the flatter hump falloff specifically for palm.
I wouldn't really say it feels cramped per se. If I never fingertipped the Viper Mini shape would be great for just a claw as I can get a good claw on it. Specifically for the grip style I have though where I switch between fingertip and claw it's very difficult to just pull back the mouse and get into that claw
Negative_Desk_8148Oh I thought you meant like all had some kinda issue, but actually mchose has good QC so they probably got unlucky. This random but what do you think of the l7 ultra vs the f1 ultimate v2?
I also saw the results on rings.com which is why I bought a l7 ultra and it is great but I also bought the ultimate v2 (still waiting on it) My question is the new mcu wouldn't provide lower motion latency?
The atk switches on the v2 ultimate are actually surprisingly good, feels similar to omron opticals
ValerianSidhaiasatk f1 ultimate 2.0 idk if its under 3k pero sulit eto. currently using this mouse
Wijo1337Atk f1 v2 with new mcu - viper mini shape clone - it would be so good for your handsize or Atk u2 v2 mini for more locked in feeling claw grip. For more budget options take a look on Rapoo vt1 original shape but similar to lamzu maya Rapoo vt0 ninjutso sora clone. U can buy rapoo with free shipping from 35$ with code for 20% discount. All of these have new nordic mcu with superior battery life. I just recommend mices with new mcu cause its just better.
Ultimate for big battery life.
t3ramI never really liked the Mad R, the shell is so thin that it feels like it's gonna break in a heartbeat even if it doesn't, same goes for the Scyrox V8. Mchose L7 or ATK F1 Extreme / Ultimate feel much better imo.
ProwlerCabooseMy copy paste list * Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$ * VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$ * Hitscan Hyperlight: Solid middle hump with great curves keeping it solidly usable for any and all grip styles. One of the best on market at 80$ * ATK Blazing Sky F1: Stolen variation of an earlier model of The Hitscan it's got a much larger mid hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$ * Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$ * Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$ * Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$ * VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro. * VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1. * Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$ * Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$ * Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$ * ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range. * Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$ * Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950. * Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$. * Scyrox V6: Very Solid HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals, with a splid rear hump and hourglass greay for all grip types. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$ * Attackshark R6: Same shape and weight and sensor as the Scyrox V8 and Sora V2 and the only real mouse from Attackshark I reccomend for 55$ * ATK A9: Best Superlight clone on market feels extremely good in hand can be found for as low as 20$ but I reccomend at least getting the Plus for a 3395 and coating at 30$, if you go beyond that it can be a very good exact GPX clone with 8k polling. * Mchose M7: Zowie U2 clone very solidly built great for claw with a larger rear hump can be found for 50$ * Ipi Float: traditional hourglass shape much akin to a finalmouse on a budget, solo for roughly 60$ * ATK U2: A zowie U2 clone that's extremely accurate and feels good in the hand massive changes for a class shake with a large rear hump. * VGN Y2: NP-01s come that's very solid, good ergo shape that's in-between a full ergo and a symmetrical one. * Ajazz: the entire company makes a massive variety of shapes. While their quality is by no means the best they have a varied amount of shapes with considering all at budget prices just try to get a 3395 model and don't expect a coating. For all ATK or VXE always try to at minimum get ones with a coating and 3395 sensor. If you can't tell which model had that check their list they always have in their websites. It should be a big box of all their model differences.
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