ATK - Dragonfly A9 Pro Max

This, and you should consider ATK A9 Plus and U2 Plus if you can find them in this price range. (I bought each one of them for 40usd on ali)

I recommend thr ATK A9 Plus or Pro. Not only is it pretty cheap at $60 or less, but it is 98% identical to the superlight in terms of look and feel, the responsiveness, and software is easy to use, clean, and overall highly recommended. Plus the shape fits all grip styles

the a9 , but the pro version . the best gpx clone .

Yep just ordered a9 plus like last week on meckeys and it says shipped can't wait to get my hands on them

Yeah i was gonna get the vxe one at first then i realised i use palm grip and the mouse would be tiny for me, then looked at atk x1 since I was also on tight budget but pulled the plug on the atk a9 plus solely due to the battery, enjoy ur mouse bro mine comes around September 1

My hand is about the same size and I've been using an ATK A9 Plus lately. No issues, great mouse, great gpx clone, gpx potato shape, which is pretty good for various kind of grips. I usually use relaxed claw grip. I know a lot of people are tired of gpx clones, but it's a relatively safe and popular shape for a reason. There are tons od gpx clones, though i'd recommend ATK A9, Mchose or Incott g23

Also if you can adjust ur budget to 3400 then ATK A9 Plus will be ur best choice as it has 240hr monstrous battery life and flagship 3395 sensor as well

Yeah my friend also ordered A9 Plus for the same reason mine comes on 30 Aug and I use claw grip and have large hands, so perfect for me. I'll update you when it arrives.

Been using an ATK dragonfly pro for the last year to replace my old G-pro. Its just a clone but a really good one

ATK A9 Ultra Max 2.0 can be updated for $40-$45 depending on the day from ali express after using checkout code BT7. Scyrox V8 is slightly more expensive but not by much on ali. Both are the best mice I've ever used and I have used for more expensive mice.

PixArt is the maker, PAW is the sensor line up and the numbers like 3395 is the model. anyways the r1 is decent enough for casual but buy at least the pro/pro max model for better coating and sensor:)

The normal Vxe Mad R (non +) is also available with 8k dongle (at least on AliExpress) if people are interested. Awesome list btw, got the Mad R and the X1 Pro and they are both amazing. Have an Atk A9 aswell which also feels very good, i dont really like the gpx shape sadly.

this day the chines mouses broke the market, they offer 1/4 of the price mouses that equal to razer/logi flagshit. get this: [https://www.atk.store/products/atk-dragonfly-a9-series-lightweight-wireless-mouse?variant=46320046112986](https://www.atk.store/products/atk-dragonfly-a9-series-lightweight-wireless-mouse?variant=46320046112986)

if you want shapes that are similar to the big brand mice like the Logitech G Pro Superlight or the Razer Viper V3, ATK has mice that are near identical in shape as well. For the GPX you have the ATK A9, and for the VV3 you have the X1. Both are good shapes for medium to large hands. https://preview.redd.it/xcs0ki7htnpf1.jpeg?width=1250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cab9f09726015bcdc88e1defec4a7b478ac797a5

personally, i wont, i would taher get atk a9 if i want same shape or rawm es21 pro if i want something else (actually there're more options but I think you should do your own research and not get everything for you), both would be 2x cheaper and same in performance (mb even a bit better), but if you want logitech, get it

Take a look at the [ATK A9](https://www.atk.store/products/atk-dragonfly-a9-series-lightweight-wireless-mouse) and the [MCHOSE A7](https://www.mchose.store/products/mchose-a7-series-high-end-lightweight-wireless-mouse), they're both Logitech G Pro X Superlight clones.

give us your style of gripping the mouse so that the mouse enthusiasts here will give you recommendation based on shapes. Unless you already have a preferred mouse shape, if so, drop it in the comments. At this price point you can;t go wrong with Atk X1, VXE R1, ATK U2, and ATK A9. It comes down to shape. And make sure to stay away from Attack Shark

Mchose A7/Aula V9/ATK A9/ATK X1 are good for large hands. Also LGG La-1 sells batches with a small flex issue for really cheap if you can get that. the Rapoo is also a good shout. and if you don't mind wired, the Deathadder v3 is good too.

>both in terms of actual performance and what’s just marketing hype (is 8K polling even worth it?). >I’m **not too worried about weight** — Funny you should say that, because the thing that affect performance the most is weight. (well the most of anything objective, fitting your hand matters the most) I would say 8k polling is "worth it" only in that most of the good mice have it. It's not a thing to go for, and you will never use it, instead leave it at 1k-2k polling. But also, the best deals often have it by default. Mchose A7/Aula V9/ATK A9/ATK X1 are good for large hands. Also LGG La-1 sells batches with a small flex issue for really cheap if you can get that.

All 3 are pretty good. I would get the Teevolution of those options, it's just as good and cheaper. If you want something a little cheaper that's still high quality Mchose A7/K7 or ATK A9/X1 are also good options. Or the ATK Z1 for something closer in shape to the Teevolution 

Attack sharks are terrible quality. We easily get 3-4 times as many posts about attack sharks breaking as any other brand. I recommend Mchose A7/K7 or ATK A9/X1 for a large hand mouse. You can also go more ergo shape with the Mchose A7 (RE) or ATK Z1.

I have both, just get whichever one is cheaper or has the colour you like.

I've used those 3 shapes and gotta say the gpx2 shape ( atk A9 ultimate ) has been the most comfortable for me giving me little to no pain after long sessions, for reference I palm / relaxed claw my mice and my hands are 20x10cm

Pretty much this, if you have the money to afford it without overthinking its price then go for it. It comes with 2 year warranty and automatic profile switching, and the best battery life out there. Also in case anything goes wrong you have a guaranteed way of reaching out to support for help. If you just want to game and and play games without the other features then the Mchose A7 or ATK A9 is the better choice

Atk a9 (gpx clone) or atk x1 (vv3 clone).

I got atk U2 on AliExpress for 28$ and atk a9 for 18$

have to agree with this comment. my version of this would have ipifloat, madg, madr, mchose L7 and atk a9 on top. but i guess, based on the poster's comment he prefers a bigger battery which is fine, but tradeoff is the weight.

A G304 has more double click issues than VXE R1, even though Logitech is largest peripheral brand and VXE is a.. let's just say new brand. If u want a trusted and mainstream brand mouse, go for the razer cobra. Same easy warranty like Logitech and optical switches which never double click. *** And other standard mice to get in this price range are Ducky Feather B&W, EVGA X12 but these along with the cobra are all wired. If u want wireless: ATK A9, RK M30, VXE R1 SE+ would be my reccs.

You can't tell the difference just go for the better shape, also u can get atk dragonfly a9 it's a g pro clone in shape, probably same tech as x1

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads. Keyboard wise you can get the Madlions Hall Effect Wooting clone for about 50$.

If I could throw my hat in there with a few suggestions. ATK A9 is a solid competitor but more accurate to the Superlight than thechose A7. Mchose L7 and L7+ are incredibly solid for the price. Both Scyrox mice are extremely solid being a Sora V2 and a HTS+ clone. Lethal LA-1 is an incredibly solid original shape who's price kept lowering due to a small flex issue and to compete with other cheap mice, it's an incredible mouse for the price. VGY Y2 is a NP-01s clone and is super solid build quality and lighter weight for a fraction the price of the original

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads

I've found the Mchose L7 and ATK A9 are both fantastic. Putting the A9 against an actual superlight 2 and genuinely I can't tell the difference in performance or feel. The L7 has some of the best internals on market according to many reviews, their implementation is simply superb and the quality on them is on par with Razer's own offerings.

Viper V3 Pro White is simply fantastic. The Mchose L7 and L7+ both feel great in hand, the ATK A9 Ice Feel is actually extremely nice on all their mice i've tried but overall the Pathfinder actually has my favorite coating of any mouse i've used. I was in the habit of trying mousepads, however that was a much faster journey. I tried the Steelseries QCK, Hyper X Fury Speed, Hyper X Fury, Artisan Hein XL X-Soft, SP-004, and XrayPad Aqua Control + Heat Treated. I personally realized quickly i use a fairly high mouse sense (at the fastest 35cm to do a 360, at the lowest 50cm) so i wanted faster overall pads and skates, so i stick to the SP-004 and use Jade Skates. I specifically would like to see a mouse with a left side harsh curve like the U2, with flat sides like the OP1/TenZ/L7. I personally really like a heavy thumb curve but i don't actually do much with my ride side fingers, at times only even keeping my ring finger actually on the mouse at all. I've actually currently got my Pathfinder setup like this and it feels really quite nice in the hand.

If you want to try the gpro shape. Take a look on the ATK A9 If you are willing to put more money on it the VGN F1 MOBA is around the same price as the X3 pro.

Would rather get the 29$ ATK A9 than anything from Incott. ATK is superior in every way, including price. You can get the 8K Pro variant for 50$ USD.

I have 22x12.5cm hands and i use a gpx clone (atk a9 plus). It works for me. Ive used the regular deathadder in the past aswell. Rn i swap between claw and fingertip depending on the scenario ingame (cs2)

very different shapes. a9 is like g pro x. x1 is razer viper. vxe r1 is a bit different, a bit more on the ergo side (relatively). ask chatgpt, it'll be useful

i wanted something like the g pro superlight. just order the a9 plus an hour ago lol

A9 is More of a claw grip with a hint of palm. Vxe r1 is more of a palm grip

it's pretty good. there are g pro superlight clones like the atk a9/mchose a7 around this price range as well though, and for me the use of usb-c on those is already enough to make me prefer those instead.

Putting the A7 above the ATK A9 is pretty crazy. I wouldn't say the g27 has the gpx shape either, it's slightly different where the A9 and A7 are pretty much 1:1

Okay ur bout 3 meters tall there is no way Also just change mouse grip ur not going to be able to find a mouse that u can put ur whole palm into I have pretty small hands and it’s pretty hard to do that with medium size mice for me Id recommend u buy a long mouse like an atk a9 and just finger tip grip it Also I heard there is a mouse that’s about 134 mm long that’s about to release but I don’t remember what brand and when it’s releasing

I have tried around 40 mice in last year. I have 480 hz OLED with 9800x3D and RTX 5090. I got late into mouse hobby but I've tried most of the current premium lineup and some budget options. Lamzu is not as responsive as Logitech or Razer disregard of whatever you may think. Lamzu 3950 feels the same as ATK 3950, as Mchose 3950 as any other brand WHICH USES THE SAME OEM SOFTWARE ONCE THEY PUT A BATCH ORDER. Any company WHICH DOES THEIR OWN SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION like Logitech or Razer FEELS DIFFERENT. Disregard of sensor position or DPI deviation, in fact latest software on both GPX2 and V3Pro allow you to make 1 to 1 DPI. Mouse responsiveness is different and I would say that Razer, Logitech and Zowie are THE best in terms of software implentation for 3950 sensor. Razer has 0 delay Motion Sync which feels more responsive than Lamzu without motion sync (while Lamzu with Motion Sync is pure trash) Zowie also has bad motion sync but other than that feels good. Logitech is probably the oldest and the most weird but once you get used to it it is quite good as well. You may trust numbers or be delusional because "hardware is the same" but in hand feeling is different.