ATK - Dragonfly A9 Ultra

EDITOR'S NOTES It finally came out, huh? lol A while ago, the list 1.0 of the best mice on AliExpress was posted here on Sub, which was focused on Low Budget and more cost-benefit than performance. In this list we focused on prioritizing mice that are also cost-effective but with High End quality (that's why you'll miss some models like the Attack Shark X6, X11, AJAZZ models and others). Remembering that this tier list is based on personal experiences, leave your comment respectfully if you disagree and leave your Up if you like the work! Without further ado, let's go :D WRITTEN TIER LIST - S+: Scyrox V8, Scyrox V6, Zaopin ZPW Max, ATK F1 Extreme, ATK X1 Ultimate - S: Attack Shark R3, VXE MAD R, Attack Shark R5, Delux M900 Ultralight 8K Set, ATK Z1, MCHOSE A7 Ultra, ATK A9 Ultra - A: VGN F1 Pro, VXE R1 Pro Max, Zaopin Z2 Mini Max, Zaopin Z1 - B: Fantech Aria II, IYX Amber, Incott G23 Pro, Helios II Pro - C: Rapoo VT3 Pro Max, Rapoo VT1 Pro, MCHOSE A5, Delux M800 4k ABOUT THE TOP OF THE LIST - Scyrox V8 and V6: These two mice manage to deliver ultra-light weight, excellent construction, marked scroll, great finish, the best sensor on the market and still have an affordable price. (Same shape: Pulsar X2H) - Zaopin ZPW Max: A new launch on the market with an ergonomic shape that fits practically any hand size and grip. Although ergonomic shapes tend to have some flaws in the construction of the main buttons, this mouse managed to achieve the perfect construction.All that said, it has 8K and an excellent sensor at an affordable price, great value for money. (Same shape: Lamzu Thorn) - ATK F1 Extreme: This mouse has been on the market for a while now, but it is extremely consolidated with more of the same, better sensor, 8K and it still has the Ice Feeling coating, characteristic of ATK that helps with sweaty hands. This mouse also weighs 35 grams, making it extremely light. It's worth every penny for the quality of the material and finish, a top-notch mouse. (Same Shape: Razer Viper Mini) - ATK X1 Ultimate: The success of this mouse speaks for itself, it is everything that the ATK F1 is, but ends up being a little heavier and with a different shape for bigger hands. The Ice Feeling is also on this mouse and today it comes in metallic red and metallic purple, which may please some. (Same shape: Razer Viper V3) - IPI FLOAT: In this mouse segment, it is extremely cost-effective. When I say this, I am considering that it is practically a Finalmouse Low Budget, offering great performance but being 4 times cheaper than a Finalmouse. Some negative points would be its Feets and battery if you turn it on, but in terms of performance and overall construction, this mouse is incredible. (Same shape: VAXEE XE-S) A TIER A LITTLE LOWER - Attack Shark R3: This is a magnesium mouse that I can say the same about the IPI FLOAT: in the magnesium segment this mouse is almost 3 times cheaper than the main ones and delivers a great set. The mouse, despite being an Attack Shark, is very well built and finished, offers a great sensor and lightness, making your user experience great. (Same shape: G-wolves HTX) - VXE MAD R: This mouse is excellent, period. One of the ultra-lightweight mice, great coating, good price... so why isn't it S+? Scyrox is simply better in every aspect for a lower price, so it comes in at the S tier very well placed. (Same shape: Zowie S2-DW) - Attack Shark R5: To be quite honest, this mouse is almost a copy of the IPI FLOAT but has better feet and a better sensor, but it doesn't justify its price being almost 50% more than the IPI FLOAT, so it's in this position. (Same shape: VAXEE XE-S) - Delux M900 Ultralight 8k Set: This mouse has an extremely cost-effective set. Great coating, comes with Nano Reciver 8K, a new technology on the market, ergonomic shape that also has a good construction (not as much as the Zaopin ZPW Max) that pleases most hands and a great option for Claw grip, your hand simply rests on the mouse. (Same shape: Zowie EC1) - ATK Z1 Pro Max: This is a mouse that I didn't put in the S+ tier so as not to be too much of a club fan, hahaha. The truth is that the shape of this mouse is extremely comfortable for all hands, a shape that is used by several pro players in a mouse that is twice as expensive, it has excellent quality (after all, it is from ATK) and has a very good sensor and batteries. (Same shape: Pulsar Xlite) - MCHOSE A7 Ultra: the famous GPX shape in a really good construction (different from the GPX's own scroll wheel :p). The mouse is very complete and offers everything a high end mouse needs with excellent quality and shape for a price much lower than the price of a GPX, for example. (Same shape: guess what? Logitech G Pro Superlight 2) - ATK A9 Ultra: Pretty much the same description as the mouse above, it has the same shape as the GPX and is of excellent quality. It is a little more expensive than the MCHOSE, but it is ATK quality, in case you are unsure about exploring new horizons with the MCHOSE. (Same shape: Logitech G Pro Superlight 2) SOME FINAL CONSIDERATIONS Ultimately, all Tier S+ mice and even some mentions of Tier S have excellent quality and power, the difference will be small in relation to price (except for those in a specific segment such as Magnesium and Carbon Fiber), so the ideal is for you to choose the shape that best suits your hand and buy the one you like the most! I'm glad you guys are supporting me in the first tier, if you have any opinions, the comments are always open with a lot of respect! :D Tier list 3.0??

mchose A7(X) Ultra, ATK A9 Ultra/pro are safe recommendations

A7X Ultra because it‘s magnesium and has 0 pretravel and the clicks feel great. If that‘s too expensive (use vouchers) then I‘d get the ATK A9 Ultra

Hey sorry I didn't read the description. I would recommend you to look towards ergo mice. You should look towards ergo mice. May from rapoo or Logitech. But all ergo mice for me always fails with switches. Out of the list you have only Razer and ATK A9 will for your need. I am using a Razer Naga V2 pro for office or casual use as I have use for all the side buttons in my workflow. Earlier I used Logitech g604 which failed 2 time in just a year of use(double clicks) I use my mouse more than normal so i always want a optical switch in the mouse. You can also look towards Mchose G7 as it's also ergo on mid to large side.

I have A9 ultra which costed me 5k with 8k polling dongle. In your use case it not worth it. I am now only getting a mouse with optical mouse buttons no mechanical as I will get them to double click in just a year. Unfortunately all mouse with optical mouse button comes in either pro or ultra version which cost twice.

same issue, haven't found a way to fix it. very annoying, have R1 Pro and X1, no issue with connection, just A9 ultra gave me nightmares

This one is nice but for rapoo price/performance is better, while leviathan costs the same it has optical scroll encoder

personally, i wont, i would taher get atk a9 if i want same shape or rawm es21 pro if i want something else (actually there're more options but I think you should do your own research and not get everything for you), both would be 2x cheaper and same in performance (mb even a bit better), but if you want logitech, get it

I have atk a9 ultra. It's amazing for a relaxed claw grip.

atk a9 ultimate arrived some days ago, i am not very used to gpx shape, but is pretty solid

Honestly the Atk A9 is worth it, the build quality on my unit is really solid, no creaking no flex, amazing switches, good coating. All this at a non Logitech price too... Side by side with my GPX it really can't get any better

Neither because they are overpriced and the Logi is also very much outdated. If you like the shapes, then instead of the Viper V3 Pro you could get the ATK X1 Ultimate, and instead of the Logi Superlight you could get either an ATK A9 Ultra or Lamzu Maya / Maya X. Also not having to use Razer software is a pro.

Maya X and A9 with the same spec (3950+Nordic) will perform the same battery wise, the 3950 is a power hog especially with higher polling but you can expect 4 days straight of gaming on 1000hz, you might not even need to ever charge in the middle of a game if you plug them in during downtime/casual use. Even so when the Maya X starts blinking red to show the battery being 15% i can get an hour or more (possibly more if i let the battery drain tbh) of use from it before having to plug it in.

ive been on a mouse journey since 2017ish and once i got the a9 ultra last january, slapped on some dots. ive never went browsing mice again xd enjoy it

Ah no. G23 hump is wider than GPX and A9. It's not as comfortable as A9 and GPX if you have medium hands

As a person who has used both G23 and A9, I would say G23 has things that A9 doesn't have. Hotswap feature and you can change polling rate right on the mouse without touching the hub

After a month my A9 Ultra had some weird issue where the wireless would just stop working for a second once every couple hours. I read online that some ATK mice with 3950 sensors were having this issue so I returned the Ultra and got the Pro since it has a 3395 and I've been good since. Excellent mouse.

Just a heads up, I replaced my dying gpx with an ATK A9 ultra and it is both less than half the price, and a better mouse in every single way.

I probably wouldn’t recommend the L7 if you use a palm grip. I’d look at something with a middle hump, maybe one of the gpx superlight clones like the incott g23v2, ATK a9 ultra, mchose A7 ultra etc but there’s plenty of other great shapes

I’d say get A9 Ultra, save a few bucks and be happy. IMHO brands like Pulsar and Lamzu are in a really awkward position. Their products are almost as expensive as the big players’ (Logi, Razer), but don’t have enough advantages over budget brands (VGN family, MCHOSE, Darmoshark, etc.) to justify the price difference. Same sensors, software features, build quality, weight, but 30-50USD more expensive? No thanks.

A9 is much faster compare to my razer viper. The coating on the mouse so good unlike razer and the switches are awesome, sude buttonare not hard to click like razer one's. Default mouse skates are also good you don't have to replace and they also provide red balance skates in the box and grip tapes but i like the Default one.

I don't found any issue yet with my atk a9 ultra maybe your one is faulty

I use 1k polling rate and atk competitive scan rate which is the middle one. 0ms debounce delay, 1mm lod and every other thing is off.

Made the same upgrade but i prefer the Viper ergonomics. But the A9 is a really great mouse, I have no complaints about It

The G Pro Wireless has the same shape as the Superlight but has 2 extra side buttons for left handed users. So if you don’t need those side buttons you can look into Superlight clones. Incott G23 V2, ATK A9 Pro/Ultra, and MChose A7 are all good choices. Now if you need side buttons on both sides, there are barely any mouse on the market with that. G Pro 2 Lightspeed is the revamped G Pro Wireless so it has those buttons. There’s also the Pulsar X2A, but that’s a very different shape.

I'd go for the dragonfly between these

The normal Vxe Mad R (non +) is also available with 8k dongle (at least on AliExpress) if people are interested. Awesome list btw, got the Mad R and the X1 Pro and they are both amazing. Have an Atk A9 aswell which also feels very good, i dont really like the gpx shape sadly.

if you want shapes that are similar to the big brand mice like the Logitech G Pro Superlight or the Razer Viper V3, ATK has mice that are near identical in shape as well. For the GPX you have the ATK A9, and for the VV3 you have the X1. Both are good shapes for medium to large hands. https://preview.redd.it/xcs0ki7htnpf1.jpeg?width=1250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cab9f09726015bcdc88e1defec4a7b478ac797a5

Take a look at the [ATK A9](https://www.atk.store/products/atk-dragonfly-a9-series-lightweight-wireless-mouse) and the [MCHOSE A7](https://www.mchose.store/products/mchose-a7-series-high-end-lightweight-wireless-mouse), they're both Logitech G Pro X Superlight clones.

I have both, just get whichever one is cheaper or has the colour you like.

Pretty much this, if you have the money to afford it without overthinking its price then go for it. It comes with 2 year warranty and automatic profile switching, and the best battery life out there. Also in case anything goes wrong you have a guaranteed way of reaching out to support for help. If you just want to game and and play games without the other features then the Mchose A7 or ATK A9 is the better choice

Atk a9 (gpx clone) or atk x1 (vv3 clone).

I got atk U2 on AliExpress for 28$ and atk a9 for 18$

have to agree with this comment. my version of this would have ipifloat, madg, madr, mchose L7 and atk a9 on top. but i guess, based on the poster's comment he prefers a bigger battery which is fine, but tradeoff is the weight.

A G304 has more double click issues than VXE R1, even though Logitech is largest peripheral brand and VXE is a.. let's just say new brand. If u want a trusted and mainstream brand mouse, go for the razer cobra. Same easy warranty like Logitech and optical switches which never double click. *** And other standard mice to get in this price range are Ducky Feather B&W, EVGA X12 but these along with the cobra are all wired. If u want wireless: ATK A9, RK M30, VXE R1 SE+ would be my reccs.

You can't tell the difference just go for the better shape, also u can get atk dragonfly a9 it's a g pro clone in shape, probably same tech as x1

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads. Keyboard wise you can get the Madlions Hall Effect Wooting clone for about 50$.

If I could throw my hat in there with a few suggestions. ATK A9 is a solid competitor but more accurate to the Superlight than thechose A7. Mchose L7 and L7+ are incredibly solid for the price. Both Scyrox mice are extremely solid being a Sora V2 and a HTS+ clone. Lethal LA-1 is an incredibly solid original shape who's price kept lowering due to a small flex issue and to compete with other cheap mice, it's an incredible mouse for the price. VGY Y2 is a NP-01s clone and is super solid build quality and lighter weight for a fraction the price of the original

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads

I've found the Mchose L7 and ATK A9 are both fantastic. Putting the A9 against an actual superlight 2 and genuinely I can't tell the difference in performance or feel. The L7 has some of the best internals on market according to many reviews, their implementation is simply superb and the quality on them is on par with Razer's own offerings.

Viper V3 Pro White is simply fantastic. The Mchose L7 and L7+ both feel great in hand, the ATK A9 Ice Feel is actually extremely nice on all their mice i've tried but overall the Pathfinder actually has my favorite coating of any mouse i've used. I was in the habit of trying mousepads, however that was a much faster journey. I tried the Steelseries QCK, Hyper X Fury Speed, Hyper X Fury, Artisan Hein XL X-Soft, SP-004, and XrayPad Aqua Control + Heat Treated. I personally realized quickly i use a fairly high mouse sense (at the fastest 35cm to do a 360, at the lowest 50cm) so i wanted faster overall pads and skates, so i stick to the SP-004 and use Jade Skates. I specifically would like to see a mouse with a left side harsh curve like the U2, with flat sides like the OP1/TenZ/L7. I personally really like a heavy thumb curve but i don't actually do much with my ride side fingers, at times only even keeping my ring finger actually on the mouse at all. I've actually currently got my Pathfinder setup like this and it feels really quite nice in the hand.

If you want to try the gpro shape. Take a look on the ATK A9 If you are willing to put more money on it the VGN F1 MOBA is around the same price as the X3 pro.

Would rather get the 29$ ATK A9 than anything from Incott. ATK is superior in every way, including price. You can get the 8K Pro variant for 50$ USD.

very different shapes. a9 is like g pro x. x1 is razer viper. vxe r1 is a bit different, a bit more on the ergo side (relatively). ask chatgpt, it'll be useful

i wanted something like the g pro superlight. just order the a9 plus an hour ago lol

A9 is More of a claw grip with a hint of palm. Vxe r1 is more of a palm grip

it's pretty good. there are g pro superlight clones like the atk a9/mchose a7 around this price range as well though, and for me the use of usb-c on those is already enough to make me prefer those instead.

Putting the A7 above the ATK A9 is pretty crazy. I wouldn't say the g27 has the gpx shape either, it's slightly different where the A9 and A7 are pretty much 1:1

Okay ur bout 3 meters tall there is no way Also just change mouse grip ur not going to be able to find a mouse that u can put ur whole palm into I have pretty small hands and it’s pretty hard to do that with medium size mice for me Id recommend u buy a long mouse like an atk a9 and just finger tip grip it Also I heard there is a mouse that’s about 134 mm long that’s about to release but I don’t remember what brand and when it’s releasing

I have tried around 40 mice in last year. I have 480 hz OLED with 9800x3D and RTX 5090. I got late into mouse hobby but I've tried most of the current premium lineup and some budget options. Lamzu is not as responsive as Logitech or Razer disregard of whatever you may think. Lamzu 3950 feels the same as ATK 3950, as Mchose 3950 as any other brand WHICH USES THE SAME OEM SOFTWARE ONCE THEY PUT A BATCH ORDER. Any company WHICH DOES THEIR OWN SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION like Logitech or Razer FEELS DIFFERENT. Disregard of sensor position or DPI deviation, in fact latest software on both GPX2 and V3Pro allow you to make 1 to 1 DPI. Mouse responsiveness is different and I would say that Razer, Logitech and Zowie are THE best in terms of software implentation for 3950 sensor. Razer has 0 delay Motion Sync which feels more responsive than Lamzu without motion sync (while Lamzu with Motion Sync is pure trash) Zowie also has bad motion sync but other than that feels good. Logitech is probably the oldest and the most weird but once you get used to it it is quite good as well. You may trust numbers or be delusional because "hardware is the same" but in hand feeling is different.