ATK - F1 V2 Extreme

which f1 v2 did you order, i went for the f1 v2 extreme coral pink for the fast charging, 54h20 mcu because it can handle polling rates above 1000hz on its own due to having usb high speed built-in, and omron opticals, i have the f1 v1 leviatan already and the coral pink is a new colorway so im hyped)

seems like op already bought something but i can 2nd this i used one for a bit they’re fantastic

EDITOR'S NOTES It finally came out, huh? lol A while ago, the list 1.0 of the best mice on AliExpress was posted here on Sub, which was focused on Low Budget and more cost-benefit than performance. In this list we focused on prioritizing mice that are also cost-effective but with High End quality (that's why you'll miss some models like the Attack Shark X6, X11, AJAZZ models and others). Remembering that this tier list is based on personal experiences, leave your comment respectfully if you disagree and leave your Up if you like the work! Without further ado, let's go :D WRITTEN TIER LIST - S+: Scyrox V8, Scyrox V6, Zaopin ZPW Max, ATK F1 Extreme, ATK X1 Ultimate - S: Attack Shark R3, VXE MAD R, Attack Shark R5, Delux M900 Ultralight 8K Set, ATK Z1, MCHOSE A7 Ultra, ATK A9 Ultra - A: VGN F1 Pro, VXE R1 Pro Max, Zaopin Z2 Mini Max, Zaopin Z1 - B: Fantech Aria II, IYX Amber, Incott G23 Pro, Helios II Pro - C: Rapoo VT3 Pro Max, Rapoo VT1 Pro, MCHOSE A5, Delux M800 4k ABOUT THE TOP OF THE LIST - Scyrox V8 and V6: These two mice manage to deliver ultra-light weight, excellent construction, marked scroll, great finish, the best sensor on the market and still have an affordable price. (Same shape: Pulsar X2H) - Zaopin ZPW Max: A new launch on the market with an ergonomic shape that fits practically any hand size and grip. Although ergonomic shapes tend to have some flaws in the construction of the main buttons, this mouse managed to achieve the perfect construction.All that said, it has 8K and an excellent sensor at an affordable price, great value for money. (Same shape: Lamzu Thorn) - ATK F1 Extreme: This mouse has been on the market for a while now, but it is extremely consolidated with more of the same, better sensor, 8K and it still has the Ice Feeling coating, characteristic of ATK that helps with sweaty hands. This mouse also weighs 35 grams, making it extremely light. It's worth every penny for the quality of the material and finish, a top-notch mouse. (Same Shape: Razer Viper Mini) - ATK X1 Ultimate: The success of this mouse speaks for itself, it is everything that the ATK F1 is, but ends up being a little heavier and with a different shape for bigger hands. The Ice Feeling is also on this mouse and today it comes in metallic red and metallic purple, which may please some. (Same shape: Razer Viper V3) - IPI FLOAT: In this mouse segment, it is extremely cost-effective. When I say this, I am considering that it is practically a Finalmouse Low Budget, offering great performance but being 4 times cheaper than a Finalmouse. Some negative points would be its Feets and battery if you turn it on, but in terms of performance and overall construction, this mouse is incredible. (Same shape: VAXEE XE-S) A TIER A LITTLE LOWER - Attack Shark R3: This is a magnesium mouse that I can say the same about the IPI FLOAT: in the magnesium segment this mouse is almost 3 times cheaper than the main ones and delivers a great set. The mouse, despite being an Attack Shark, is very well built and finished, offers a great sensor and lightness, making your user experience great. (Same shape: G-wolves HTX) - VXE MAD R: This mouse is excellent, period. One of the ultra-lightweight mice, great coating, good price... so why isn't it S+? Scyrox is simply better in every aspect for a lower price, so it comes in at the S tier very well placed. (Same shape: Zowie S2-DW) - Attack Shark R5: To be quite honest, this mouse is almost a copy of the IPI FLOAT but has better feet and a better sensor, but it doesn't justify its price being almost 50% more than the IPI FLOAT, so it's in this position. (Same shape: VAXEE XE-S) - Delux M900 Ultralight 8k Set: This mouse has an extremely cost-effective set. Great coating, comes with Nano Reciver 8K, a new technology on the market, ergonomic shape that also has a good construction (not as much as the Zaopin ZPW Max) that pleases most hands and a great option for Claw grip, your hand simply rests on the mouse. (Same shape: Zowie EC1) - ATK Z1 Pro Max: This is a mouse that I didn't put in the S+ tier so as not to be too much of a club fan, hahaha. The truth is that the shape of this mouse is extremely comfortable for all hands, a shape that is used by several pro players in a mouse that is twice as expensive, it has excellent quality (after all, it is from ATK) and has a very good sensor and batteries. (Same shape: Pulsar Xlite) - MCHOSE A7 Ultra: the famous GPX shape in a really good construction (different from the GPX's own scroll wheel :p). The mouse is very complete and offers everything a high end mouse needs with excellent quality and shape for a price much lower than the price of a GPX, for example. (Same shape: guess what? Logitech G Pro Superlight 2) - ATK A9 Ultra: Pretty much the same description as the mouse above, it has the same shape as the GPX and is of excellent quality. It is a little more expensive than the MCHOSE, but it is ATK quality, in case you are unsure about exploring new horizons with the MCHOSE. (Same shape: Logitech G Pro Superlight 2) SOME FINAL CONSIDERATIONS Ultimately, all Tier S+ mice and even some mentions of Tier S have excellent quality and power, the difference will be small in relation to price (except for those in a specific segment such as Magnesium and Carbon Fiber), so the ideal is for you to choose the shape that best suits your hand and buy the one you like the most! I'm glad you guys are supporting me in the first tier, if you have any opinions, the comments are always open with a lot of respect! :D Tier list 3.0??

I share a little of your opinion, my IPI FLOAT, I stayed for 2 weeks and exchanged it for ATK F1 I believe the IPI FLOAT is worth it at the top because in its sector the price is almost 4 times lower than any carbon fiber mouse today. So weighing up the price for what it delivers, I think it is extremely cost-effective. But I myself didn't adapt to the perforated carbon fiber mouse lol

yes. my f1 extreme weighed in at 35 so it's 100% achieveable.

I have an ATK F1 Extreme. It doesn't have a DPI button.

You have a VXE R1. It's the same company. The F1 Extreme is the lightest mouse they made (35g). Removed everything to cut weight.

ATK F1 Extreme. Very similar shape. But i recently switched back to the viper mini cuz it was too light for me. Aim got shaky. Tried it for a month plus

I think they’re priced similarly depending on if you go straight through the maker or Aliexpress. Honestly the F1 is lightly sturdier but V6 still has good build quality. Coating slightly better on V6. I’d almost for sure go shape over everything here unless you find a crazy deal on one or the other.

atk f1 extreme and the skarida glass pad. i really want to try the hsk plus lite tho

Attack F1 Extreme - one of the best budget mice. Costs ~50$, weights 35 gram and has a polling rate up to 8k.

Review of the ATK U2 This is my first review like this i hope it is useful to someone. I am using a standard tape measure and converting from inches to cm so measurements might not be exact. This is my hand size for reference. My hand size is about 17.78cm x 8.89cm and my thumb is on the short, stumpy side at around 5.08cm. First off a little TLDR Warning a backstory to my mouse journey. So the Journey began with my first mouse a redragon M901 equipped with PMW3360 Precision Sensor. Then I tried the Redragon M913 Impact Elite equipped with the Pixart 3335. It was decent much better then the stock mice I always got with the prefab desktops I had as a kid. I returned it because the battery life was horrible on it and stuck with the wired version. Moving on I purchased my first name brand mouse real gaming mouse it was the Logitech g604 using the HERO 16K sensor. This bad boy was a chonker weighing in at 135 grams. But boy did it feel better. Everything about it felt more precise. I want to say I mained this bad boy for about a year. I I started watching a lot of reviews on mice and got the itch to try something new. Less buttons as I had gotten tired of setting up hotkeys for my games and wanted something that I could set up and key a few buttons quickly and get to playing. I also wanted to try lighter wireless mice as I had heard they are a lot better. This is when I stumbled onto the g305. It used the same HERO 16K sensor if I'm not mistaken with the model I had (I have sold it since then). It was lighter and had a decent sensor for the time. I used the AAA battery mod in it. The only thing I didn't really like about that mouse was that the back end sits low, the middle is pretty wide for my grip style. It felt off to me. Shortly after I got the Orochi v2 and this was the best I had tried. Equipped with the 5G Advanced 18K DPI Optical Sensor (according to tech power up it's a the PixArt PAW3369) the shape fit my claw style grip it was light weight and it felt perfect. Well this was short lived not long after I tried the viper mini because I wanted to try optical switches and it was a cheap way to do so. The Viper Mini is equipped with the PAW3359. I fell in love with the switches and just hated the cable. I wasn't sure if it was a placebo or if the opticals really felt quicker to me and more responsive but I was stuck on them. So I bought the viper ultimate. This checked all my boxes at the time. Light weight for the time 74g, opticals switches, and wireless. It came equipped with the Focus+ sensor (PAW3399). My claw grip felt great on this mouse. The only thing I didn't like about the mouse was the side buttons on the side for left handed people. Not a big deal as it was easy to disable and the rubber grips they wear down after time. I tried the G-Wolves HSK Wired equipped with the PWM3389 Sensor and weighing in at 36g. I liked the weight, the lack of side buttons was the deal breaker for me and the fact it was wired. I liked the size of it and felt pretty nice in my hand but the wire was annoying to me and the lack of side buttons just made it not suitable for my gaming needs. I continued to mained the viper ultimate until the release of the viper v2 pro and ordered the hyper polling dongle as soon as it launched, 4k Hrz polling later updated to 8k hHrz polling. The v2 pro was a huge upgrade to me, lighter at 58g as opposed to 74G, and equipped with the Focus Pro 30K (PixArt PAW3950). This was mained until the release of the Viper Mini SE. i Originally passed on the first batch of the Viper Mini SE due to the price and having spent so much on the Viper V2 pro at launch and not having used it super long. But the beauty of the Viper Mini SE got to me. It really checked all the boxes I wanted in a mouse. Super light weight at 48.3 grams, High Polling 8k Hrz, amazing Build quality, and top tier sensor. The down side was the price tag. Once it came back in stock my Ex ordered it for me. I have since put it up for personal reasons and this led me on the journey to find my new main. So now here we are with the ATK U2. I started looking for a new mouse and didn't want to spend Razer, Logitech, Final Mouse kind of money on my next mouse. I stumbled onto a lot of different brands of Allie Express Mice and noticed something sub $70 8k polling support on a mouse. This caught my eyes. I also noticed they had it implemented for wired and wireless. Both my V2 Pro and Viper Mini SE only supported 8k in wireless mode which I always found silly and figured it had to do with the dongle having something in it that allowed it since the V2 Pro only came stock with the 1k dongle. I looked some more and noticed the the ATK F1 extreme supported the 8k polling wired/wireless and its shape is almost exactly as the hitscan hyperlight. Which is very close to the viper mini shape. Watched a lot of reviews on ATK and i ordered the F1 Extreme for about $69. My copy came in at 35.73g with 4 tiger ice v2 dot skates. I got it in the mail, got it out of the box and I was in love, boxed up my Viper mini SE and put it in storage. I had seen the zowie U2 shape and wanted to try it but never bought one. I had seen the ATK U2 on sale when I was looking for a new mouse but the 49 +/- weight was a turn off for me because I wanted a super light mouse sub 40g with 8k polling because i remembered loving the weight of the gwolves hsk wired and now sub 40g wireless is a thing. So after using the ATK F1 extreme i ordered the ATK U2 ultimate for about $56. TLDR over on to the review. My copy of the ATK U2 comes in at 52.31g with the stock skates. I got it from aliexpress so i don't know how the shipping from ATK’s Official site is. The unboxing experience is nice. It comes packed in a brown box that says ATK on it. Inside of that box is the mouse's actual box. It comes with an 8k dongle, a decent paracord cable on the stiffer side of paracord cables, and extra skates. I have not used extra skates. They say they are control skates. It also comes with grip tape as well. I don't like to use grip tape but its a nice addition. Software/Web Driver: ATK U2 has 2 ways to use the software for mouse adjustments: a web driver [ATK HUB](https://hub.atk.pro/) and the software. I use both. I prefer the web driver if I'm messing with settings for the mouse. It's just more fluid and it's easy to use in English. The software was in Chinese from the start for me a little messing around i got it working in English. I use the software if I want to quickly look at the battery level of the mouse. The web driver you have to add the mouse each time you load it if you close the browser. With the software you do not have too. Both Drivers are full of features and do the same things. Allows you to adjust DPI, Polling Rate, Angle, LOD, Dongle RGB setting, Key binds, and Firmware updates and much more. Only complaint I have about the software is that the Key binds do not have the ability to be paired to the application you use. This was a feature that kept me liking Logitech and razors software as buggy as synapse is. This is an easy fix honestly and I wished I found it sooner. I started using a program called X-mouse Button Control. This allows you to be able to implement your key binds using X-Mouse Button Control and set them up to be used on a per application basis i also set it up to have google cloud save my key binds to the cloud so i have thin in an event that i have to reformat my PC and don't have to go back the key binding process. X-Mouse Button Control fixes my only complaint about their software and its free and pretty light on computer Resources. [You can Get X-Mouse Button Control here](https://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/xmousebuttoncontrol.htm) The Shell And Coating: The mouse has a nice coating; it feels kind of like a smooth matte texture. It's not a rough feeling like the V2 Pros texture. Not on the shell something felt off when compared to my old V2 Pro and I couldn't put my finger on it until I was reading some other reviews. The shell does not feel as dense. I have tried squeezing the mouse pretty hard more than you would put on the mouse in normal day to day use and I don't get any squeaking, creaking or flexing. So it is not a bad feeling that it feels less dense, it's just how it is. Battery life: I have not had the mouse dies once on me i have a bad habit of if i'm done i will toss the mouse on the charge that being said i have been running it at 8k polling and ran it multiple sessions without charging the 800mah battery makes 8k Hrz honestly feel like when i used 1k Hrz with older wireless tech. The Grip: The mouse honestly feels to me like it speaks to you. When I grabbed it for the first time my grip was pretty much locked in. It is one of the most comfortable mice I have used for my claw grip. Clicks and Scroll wheel: The Omron Opticals are on par with razer opticals in my opinion. They have a nice crisp click quick and easily spammable buttons. The side buttons feel great they are pretty good size not tiny and the placement of them is perfect it's designed in such a way i don't have to feel like i have to place my tomb in a specific place to hit the button it feels like my thumb wants to be there and the buttons just happen to be where they can be hit easily. The Scroll wheel is using the TTC Gold encoder. It feels amazing with great tactile steps. The scroll slick is easy to use and I have not gotten any accidental scrolls while clicking. The main chip: is the Nordic 52840 The Sensor: Not much to say they did a great job implementing the Pixart PAW3950. Honestly i feel its on Par with Razers implementation of it The Dongle: The dongle is ok. It has adjustable RGB which is nice. I would have liked the dongle to be smaller and more of a normal shape but it's not an added cost to the mouse, it's included with it and it works really well so all and all no gripes. All in all this is my favorite mouse, my new main. I liked it so much I bought a 2nd one on sale for around $49. I plan to do some mods to it, a battery weight reduction, use dot skates, and add qi charging to it. When I get my second copy in the mail I will make any updates I need to to this review. # ATK U2 = 10/10 Would Recommend

Oh sorry, i thought 150 was your budget my bad.  Mchose L7, OP1 8K, ATK F1 ext. If you like bigger mice. Madlions mad g, vxe mad r, eweadn s9/atk x1 For cloth mousepad there are a lot of good options from matrova, infinitymice, meow gaming gear, and esport tiger. Just pick the speed pad option from these companies.

Great, If you want more deeper palm contact go with scyrox. L7 and F1 if you want less palm contact and more of fingers mobility. For OP1 it just the thinness of it that will decide whether you like it or not, and because it's thin the hump should be able to snug into your palm easily

Same handsize and grip, i use the ATK F1 extreme. Its great

well, I\`m not a professional reviewer, just like to be informed. But latency for the sensors is almost a non-issue nowadays with high polling rates. You should look out for polling stability, quality of sensor and wireless implementation, software optimizations... Click latency is important and the choice of actuators installed and how the travel of these buttons affect spammability, or how they impact with unwanted clicks... Shape is of course to be observed but also weight and balance.. Coating and how it affects grip, skates and how they affect glide.. And finally budget, because even the cheaper mice come with top specs if you know where to look really. If I had to pick top 5 they would be: 1- op18k (actually got this one for myself) 2- viper v3 pro (wish I had the dough to pick it up, seems insane) 3- the maya 8k (just perfect in every way, might pick it if shows up in my country) 4- atk f1 extreme (actually picked this one up and it would be my budget pick or lightweight choice) 5- xm2w 4k (might also pick this one up, perfect in everyway, balanced weight mouse)

After v3 pro these isn't much performance to look for, you can try Maya x it has very good shape. Also atk f1 extreme, very light also feels very hollow. Coating is nice. Go with aftermarket skates, you won't like skates that come with atk.

it doesn't, i have atk f1 extreme set to 0ms debounce and still wont slam click no matter how hard i try

1. Scyrox V6 2.Vancer Thrash 3.ATK F1 Extreme 4. Endgame Gear XM2W 4k 5.ATK X1 Ultra Everything is just based of the shape and the mice I've tested, performance vise there isn't that much difference anyway.

The quality is the same on both mice i have , the coating on the F1 Extreme is more chalky i would say. The F1 doesnt have an indicator but the dongle will get red if the battery percentage is below 20

I bought an ATK F1 Blazing Extreme, and its not flat front to back. Very noticeable on glass. Take that as you will. I may be an exception. When I search online about my issue, there are others with identical issue.

Deathadder V4 & ATK F1 Extreme on a Skypad 4 or Aqua Control Plus

Hi, just FYI, even exactly the same switches in different mice would feel differently, that's because of material, button shape Even the same optical omrons feel completely different on my atk f1 extreme and Hitscan hyperlight

I feel like the clicks are also debatable as the most recent batches of the GPX2 have fixed the heavy click feeling. And as much as I find Logitech products overpriced, their battery life is still the best. Personally I think the ATK F1 Extreme is the best buy, you get the Hitscan Hyperlight shape, most recent sensor, the 8k dongle included plus a web driver for the same price.

ATK is not even cheap brand tho. Preorder of mine was 80USD plus Tax plus Import fee.

Shipping was 14USD, 10EUR import fee, 18eur eur tax. Dongle included, 3950 chip with better battery life and better tracking on glass pad. Hitscan comes from China too for the same price and same tax and import fees.

The ATK F1 is the most similar mouse to a mini that I tried, but I wouldn't recommend it cuz the build quality is pisspoor. The sides of mine cracked whenever I put just a little bit of pressure. And tbh, the hpc01m is nearly a 1:1 mini clone, the only diff is that it has the top and rear bumps shape of the gpx . The best way to describe it is a gpx shape with a viper mini dimensions, so kinda like a 'gpx mini' lol. Which is the perfect endgame for me since it's the best of both world If you're into custom mouses and you got money to waste, pmm sell a 1:1 mini clone with viper v2 internals. It's overpriced asf (>200$ if I remember), but if your only concern is the mini shape then you should check it out

atk f1 old batch

omron optical + nordic dongle

I'd also mention atk f1, great shape but also flat sides. Though it's probably not recommended no more thanks to USA!!!!

IPI Float 88 is an absolute king at around $50 in my eyes, but its design(holes) might not be to your liking. I’ll suggest some other good options around $60: ATK Blazing Sky F1, VXE Mad R (you might be able to find the Mad R Major on sale for around $60, which is a better version of the regular VXE Mad R), Incott G23 (a GPX Superlight clone with hot-swappable switches), Attack Shark R6, and ATK Blazing Sky X1 (a Viper V3 clone). They are all using solid sensor, are lightweight and using better switches (in my opinion, i'm just omron hater) than Logitech for example. They are all wireless as well.

Also the ATK F1 has a more rear sensor placement which I find hard to get used to compared to the hitscan

Oh, I'm referring to the Maya X. Excuse me for confusing you. I really like the RVM and decided to go ATK F1, but I found that it is very small for my medium hand 18×9 cm. I'm just wondering if it is similar but bigger RVM.

There is no best, you can tell us your preferences and we can give you a general idea but every mouse is different, even some people find that that dislike the ATK F1 and love the Hitscan Hyperlight despite being such s small difference. Feel your Vv2p and find when you wish it was different.

Many do beat at everything individually. But for the shape it is, it’s the best you can find. They put a lot of work into it. ATK cloned the shape in their F1 series & has better specs on paper but the QC & quality is questionable.

ATK F1 is an unfinished Hitscan. They just slapped a better sensor and put it out to market without proper testing that Hitscan did later. Perks of being a bigger company & closer to the factories. Overall, the Hitscan is a much better mouse.

Atk F1 feels nothing like the RVM in hand and the hitscan is even straighter in the front like a Razer Cobra

I have a more updated list here: * Incott Ghero Pro: Solid Mouse that feels like a GPX Ergo (or NP-01 Clone) and is extremely solidly build while staying price wise at 50$ * VGN Dragonfly F1: Solid orignial shape with a larger rear hump on the end that curves more inwards before coming out at the front, very safe shape at 46$ * ATK Blazing Sky F1: Shaped akin to a Sora V2 it's got a much larger rear hump with substantial curves as it comes into the front while going thinner towards it with lowered clicks. Is 38g and has a 3950 sensor but is usually a full 70$ * Darmoshark M3S: Solid Viper styled shape with those same bell curves, usually around 40$ * Zaopin Z2: Solid ergo light with a much smaller ergo feel yet still has a nice rounded bump and curve to it for the ergo feel at 50$ * Endgame Gear OP1 Wired: This is what a lot of mice are based on as EGG has some of the better mice on market in terms of quality and built and software. It's one of the best mice you can buy. It is wired but if you don't care about 4k or 8k it's perfectly fine at 45$ * VXE R1: Nearly identical to the Pulsar X2V2 it's got a super solid feel and the pro model has a better coating and overall well implemented sensor. Considered the king of the budgets it's 50$ for the Pro and as low as 20$ for not pro. * VXE Mad R: Identical to the mouse above in shape its another X2V2 clone perfect at 38g great for all grip styles, the Major verision has a 3950 sensor and is 45$ for normal, 63$ for Major, if you can grab this over the normal R1. * Incott HPC02M: is a X2 clone with supersolid build quality and the ability to swap the switches with ease. 55$ * PureTrak Valor: Clone of the GPX but with 3395 and USB-C that usually sells for sub 50$ * Incott G23: GPX clone with hotswappable switches at 50$ * Phlyina S450: HTS+ Clone with solid build quality and a really good mouse. They are working on a 38g version and have a 4k version around 40-50$ * Scyrox V8: Sora V2 clone at 38g with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 70$ * Attack Shark R6: Another Sora V2 Clone with a 3950 built for claw, can be found for 50$. * ATK Blazing Sky X1: Viper V3 clone with 3950 and solid build quality right at the 70$ price range. * Incott G24: Zowie EC2 Clone that's hotswap and solid weight can be found for 70$ * Mchose L7: 38g with a shape somewhere between the Lamzu Atlantis and X2V2. It has flatter sides but still a larger rear curve to lock in slightly better than something like the Mad R while still feeling very premium. Basic model has 3395 for 45$ and pro is closer to 60$ for 3950. * Lethal LA-1: Basically a larger OP1. Same kind of curves but a larger overall feel, due to having some very small issues with the batch and to compete with budget mice it can now be found for 30$. * Razer Viper V3 Hyperspeed: While a bit heavier than most at 83g and using a AA battery, It still boasts a solid sensor and performance with a shape that people adore for 70$ * Scyrox V8 and V6: solid Sora clone and HTS+ clone both at around 40g with full 8k and solid internals. Very good overall and some of the best budget out there. 70$

80 for the ATK F1 compared to 115 or more depending on location for the hitscan hyperlight, the mouse they stole the shape from, pretty substantial decrease in price.

So many budget bangers there. If people know what's up, all these brands will significantly discount their mice. I recommend zaopin z2, vxe r1 mad r, atk x1/f1. These mice uses 3395 sensor, 4k polling rate capable, high dpi, wireless and uses good switches. All for below 50 USD. They're more than 3x cheaper than what razer, Logitech puts out.

ATK X1/F1 series. Christmas sale+ use code Elo i guess. Also Has webs based software so no need to download it. Just open chrome and save, change every setting without installment. It's also one of the if not the cheapest but most premium mouse containing the latest sensor, omron optical(no double click like ever) etc.

I have tried around 40 mice in last year. I have 480 hz OLED with 9800x3D and RTX 5090. I got late into mouse hobby but I've tried most of the current premium lineup and some budget options. Lamzu is not as responsive as Logitech or Razer disregard of whatever you may think. Lamzu 3950 feels the same as ATK 3950, as Mchose 3950 as any other brand WHICH USES THE SAME OEM SOFTWARE ONCE THEY PUT A BATCH ORDER. Any company WHICH DOES THEIR OWN SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION like Logitech or Razer FEELS DIFFERENT. Disregard of sensor position or DPI deviation, in fact latest software on both GPX2 and V3Pro allow you to make 1 to 1 DPI. Mouse responsiveness is different and I would say that Razer, Logitech and Zowie are THE best in terms of software implentation for 3950 sensor. Razer has 0 delay Motion Sync which feels more responsive than Lamzu without motion sync (while Lamzu with Motion Sync is pure trash) Zowie also has bad motion sync but other than that feels good. Logitech is probably the oldest and the most weird but once you get used to it it is quite good as well. You may trust numbers or be delusional because "hardware is the same" but in hand feeling is different.