U2 Pro Max

U2 had a deeper thumb groove than any other mouse listed

ATK U2 and VGN Y2 just came out. Got my U2 Pro for 50$ and it came in yesterday and totally awesome! Ordered my Y2 Pro for 38$ which at 45 g with full sized skates should be insane! Considering how good the NP-01-S is.

U2 Pro/Ultra 47$/70$ on Ali - sub 50 g, good sensor, big skates with reasonable control for competitive gaming, really grippy with ergo thumb groove. Uranus Pro 45$ - most similar to Basilisk with nice booty to grab! Not quite as good of a shape as the OG Roccat shape it copies but it’s close and only 55 g.

In the list I would say: Leviathan v4 is the best, but second hand at that price, I wouldn't know. Mad R It's definitely a great mouse, but you absolutely have to get it with a claw grip. If I'm not mistaken, you were telling me to get it with a Palm grip with a 19cm hand. That's impossible here, but if you're willing to adapt, to a new grip, then it's a great choice. Es21 pro It's a good mouse, but it doesn't have the best switches. Many complain about its poor spammability. Atk u2: I have a U2V2 ultimamente. Narrow and long shape for relaxed claw grip (OG shape that i love), quite unique in its kind. BUT: My unit has terrible build quality in terms of the shell (for the price) and I also had issues with the sensor and have been dealing with support for a month. R1 I have never used it personally

i'd choose U2, 18.5*10 here

I think if you are willing to navigate chinese mice, they will work fine for your needs. I personally didn't have bad experiences with atk or mchose. They aren't like sister brands or anything to my knowledge. And they can often be locally available. - Which I would actually recommend, I am not a big believer in chinese mice support and would rather deal with importers. Depending on local consumer protections, you might want to import yourself. As for the specific model, ATK had something like Rival3+ shape in that it was slightly more filling to the hand. Sadly I don't remember it exactly. Maybe U2? My personal favorites are F1 and Z1. F1 is the default mouse shape. Z1 is a bigger one that's more ergonomic. Other chinese mice are also fine. It is basically web drivers for most of them. They are all similar internally so I'd say go with one that is locally available, looks somewhat interesting or pretty to you. It is harder to find something that doesn't work than one that does in mice these days. They all come with usb c and support for over 1k hertz. The only brand I don't like, that's somewhat widely available, is Ajazz. I've used a few of their products over the years, never felt quite as good as the others. The rest either improved drastically to be good or were always good enough. Sorry about not being able to name a specific model exactly. But I hope it helps narrow it down for you if nobody else helps out. If you want to dig through shapes, eloshapes is a good resource. They have comparison tools and such.

give us your style of gripping the mouse so that the mouse enthusiasts here will give you recommendation based on shapes. Unless you already have a preferred mouse shape, if so, drop it in the comments. At this price point you can;t go wrong with Atk X1, VXE R1, ATK U2, and ATK A9. It comes down to shape. And make sure to stay away from Attack Shark

so wider back and thinner grip width until the front. Well not much tbh especially in that size range, I can only give you zowie u2 or atk u2 as the options