ATK - X1 V2 Extreme

Well i have tried a lot of mice this year and i can give you a hand. I am 19x9.5 hands and relaxed claw Tried and owned in like order: Viper v3 pro- Lamzu maya x- Pulsar xlite v4 medium - Razer deathader - Pulsar susanto x- Pulsar x2 v3 medium- Dont like no special order: Scyrox v6 and v8- Logitech superlight- Logitech dex- Logitech 502- Razer basilisk - Pulsar tenz mouse And my top #1 pick would be razer viper v3 pro, for my grip and hand size is perfect and i have the faker edition and it is beautiful. I got an ATK x1 v2 but returned since i have the faker edition viper v3 pro but i would get either of those 2.

[https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-u2-vs.-atk-x1-vs.-atk-a9-ultimate](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-u2-vs.-atk-x1-vs.-atk-a9-ultimate) I mean they are all pretty big potato shapes :) I'd say if you like a bigger rear hump, get the U2, if you like a little more curve on the sides get the X1. A9 is just the superlight safe potato shape :) I own an ATK x1 and it is great. If you want to try the shape you could go to a retail store and see if they have a viper v3 on display (x1 is clone). Could do the same with A9 and superlight shape

If you are in the USA - ATK X1 v2 Ultra Max is $57-$14 coupon ($43+$3 shipping = $46) on amazon [https://www.amazon.com/ATK-X1-V2-Lightweight-PAW3950Ultra/dp/B0FYFL473V](https://www.amazon.com/ATK-X1-V2-Lightweight-PAW3950Ultra/dp/B0FYFL473V) I have 19x8 hands and I have a little bit of a gap on my palm when I grip it, 16x8 would be full palm grip If you want something smaller then the ATK F1 V2 is around the same price on amazon right now (I also have this mouse an can palm it if i want but i usually do more of a palm/claw hybrid) [https://www.amazon.com/ATK-F1-V2-Wireless-Dual-Mode/dp/B0FX49BGKB](https://www.amazon.com/ATK-F1-V2-Wireless-Dual-Mode/dp/B0FX49BGKB) size comparison: [https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-f1-v2-ultra-max-vs.-atk-x1-v2-ultra-max](https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=atk-f1-v2-ultra-max-vs.-atk-x1-v2-ultra-max)

I have 18x9 hands and have an ATK X1 (viper v3 clone). Its almost full palm for me. I can do a very slight claw grip but its not comfortable. I also have an ATK F1 v2 and a hitscan hyperlight. Both much easier to claw grip

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads. Keyboard wise you can get the Madlions Hall Effect Wooting clone for about 50$.

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads

I got larger hands but I've been palm gripping a lot of mice recently. ATK A9: it's a Logitech superlight clone and it's like the best one on market as long as you get one with a 3395 you're good. ATK X1: it's a razor Viper V3 clone and it's super solid, make sure whichever one you get has a coating and 3395. ATK Z1: EC3 ergo shape solid for palm grip, same as the last two. Incott GHero Pro: kinda an NP-01s clone, solid for its price. Incott G23: Superlight Clone and solid, some of the best build quality Incott G24: EC3 clone and solid also super good build quality. Mchose L7+: Sora V1 shape, pretty large and good for claw/palm in my experience Mchose G7: G502 shape which is great for palm get the pro to get the 3395 version

Here's a few 30$ or less solid mice all sub 60g. * Lethal LA-1: Original shape, good for all grip types, my personal favorite on this list. Lethals first attempt at aouse has a small flexing issue on the side, its unlikely to ever come up in regular usage, but caused them to drop the price. Its a solidly thin claw shape with a larger solid rear hump, basically a scaled up OP1 which feels great to use. * ATK X1: Viper V3 Pro clone shape, a larger hourglass with solid feelnfor any grip style and a good coating. It'll have a 3395 SE which is basically a 3311, perfectly fine in most cases just dont go above 1600 dpi. * ATK A9: Logitech G Pro Superlight clone shape. Larger potato shape great for all grip types though large for fingertip yet some still do. The A9 SE and normal A9 are 25$ and 30$ respectively though neither will have a coating and will have a 3311 ad 3395 SE. * VXE R1: X2 Medium clone shape, larger flatter sides great for all grip styles. No model sub 30$ will have a coating yet the normal R1 that is sub 30$ has a 3395. * Delux M600: Viper Mini clone shape, smaller and solid for fingertip and claw but a bit small for palm. Not sure the internals and harder to find with no coating but solid implementation on the model I got. * Phylina S450: HTS+ Clone shape, larger middle hump with hourglass shape and deeper curves, Great for all grip types though difficult to fingertip with its height. There's a chance the model you get wont have function software its a toss up, 3395 no matter the model. * Attackshark X3: Original hourglass shape, smaller than other mice solid for all grip types. Probably the worst QC on his list but the pro model isn't terrible. 3395 with a good implementation, the pro model is better but slightly more expensive closer to 35$, where yoy can find the original as low as 12$ at times. * Attackshark R1: Razer Deathadder V3 Mini shape clone, palm and claw. Really cheap at 16$ usually packing a 3311. * Metaphyuni P1: Exact shell as Attackshark R1, but better sensor at higher price can be found at 30$. * Metaphyuni P2: Zowie U2 clone shape, solid for claw and palm. Huge rear hump and flare makes it great for getting solid palm contact for a claw or palm grip, curves to aggressive for other options, gotta hunt for deals on that one. * ATK U2: Zowie U2 Clone shape unsurprisingly. Solid coating on all models, newer so harder to find good deals for but older sensors like a 3311 in the sub 30$ model. * Ajazz The Entire Company: Ajazz isn't the best quality. Ajazz isn't even good quality. They are lower range okay mice but offer an *extremely* wide variety of mice in different shapes (usually clones) for low prices. Those are all the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. There's certainly more like RAWM and other companies and if you just look up 3395 on Aliexpress you'll see shitloads

Seeing that you use the death adder and use say have a claw grip I can recommend the ark x1 is x1s. They are great viper v3 pro clones and would fit perfectly in your budget.

ATK X1 or mchose K7 Reliable and very similar to viper

there are indeed way better options. [https://www.atk.store/](https://www.atk.store/) have a look at these, but the bets option is to find which grip you really like using or float towards. clones and others have been releasing left and right so its nice to have this many choices. the atk x1 (the non expensive versions) is really all you need if you like the viper shape. but shape over anything 1st

Atk X1 designed for claw grip

Was my main, but started to have double click on both click, less than 3-4 months, btw when I change to an ATK mouse i get better perfomance instantly, maybe because my hand is too big for m8 or maybe atk is better. Xtryfy m8 have to much latency, ATK X1 is way better on latency, and you can notice the diference.

Atk a9 or VXE R1 Atk X1 if you like the viper shape

They are much lighter than competing Logitech/razer mouse. Have good quality and satisfying switches and scroll wheel with no reported cases of double click issue that I know of. Decent after sales (Logitech is best in after sales) They have a good sensor (especially ones with 3395). Have web based software. Provide feet or grip tape in box, along with a neat paracord lightweight cable Are tri mode wireless unlike Logitech or Razer. If you can spare 2700, I would go for the Atk X1 as it even comes with a coating that feels very nice. I myself use the atk a9 plus). Most of the things are same between these mice except the shape. R1 for small hands, a9 for potato holding (gpx superlight shape), x1 for viper shape

It's a good mouse. I wouldn't say better than VV3 Pro, but def worth the money. I'm testing the ultra atm. Check my YT short. I'd get the pro for best value. ATK X1 is a lighter alternative with optical switches. Can't go wrong either way.

I think the zowie EC2 or viper v3 pro shapes are the best and this is coming from someone with small hands that has been using small mice exclusively for many years now. Recently got a pulsar xlite v3 mini (smaller than ec2, wish I had gotten a bigger one) and the atk x1 which is a viper v3 pro clone and I have been having a blast, for the first time in my life it feels like my grip is 100% comfortable with these 2. I haven't tried many ergos but I would recommend the xlite v3/v4 medium, deathadder hyperspeed (haven't tried it but looks good) and the atk x1 (has like 6 different versions, depending on what you need and the budget, or maybe you can get a viper v3 pro if you want the real one)