ATK - Z1 Pro

Is it going to be lighter? I hope so, it’s the main reason I changed to an ATK Z1 tbh, lighter and a better dongle out of the box. Screw paying £150 for a mouse then an extra £40 for an 8k dongle……..

Had a pretty hefty game session last night using the Kysona Jupiter Ultra, and had a big smile on my face. :) $60 for a Viper v3 Pro clone with Omron Opticals.

Wired Deathadder v3, ATK Z1

vxe mad r+ (or any other atk mouse with 3395/3950 and optical switches), rawm es21, rapoo vt7 max if you like palming your mouse (among those rapoo has best battery life - 400h at 1k polling while most other get 100-200)

https://ibb.co/XZLsDbZ3 https://ibb.co/Zp7KCQDm The Atk z1 is not like the ec1. It's like the ec2 which is much too small (the blue mouse in the photo is the ec2 slightly larger clone the er21 pro which is still slightly too small). The Rapoo mouse I mentioned is much newer tech and much better for your hand size. Personally, the 4k Zowie dongle is what makes it worth saving and getting the ec1 dw. It's incredible https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/compare?p=zowie-ec1-dw-vs.-pulsar-xlite-v4-large-vs.-atk-z1-ultra-vs.-zowie-ec2-dw-vs.-logitech-g-pro-x-superlight-2-dex-vs.-rapoo-vt3-max-gen-2

All of those are not great choices. G309 and Orochi are old and heavy. Attack Shark X3 has fine specs but is made by Attack Shark which I would avoid. Mchose or ATK are generally the best options for good price while still being quality. Mchose A5 or A7 is probably a good option (A5 being slightly smaller) ATK A9 is also good. You can also look at more a Viper clone with the Mchose K7 or ATK X1. Or an Ergo with the Mchose A7 (RE) or ATK Z1.

Similar hand size and I use relaxed claw. While I vaguely tried to follow the small mice rule, none of those were great for comfort. Talking about the VXE R1/Mad R size. Those were giving me pain around the little finger. The comfortable ones were mid to large sized. EC2, S1, Haste, DAV3 were infinitely better. Currently using ATK Z1 (EC2 clone) and it has been great. My conclusions were - length of more than 120mm and grip width of 62mm or more.

IMO ATK Z1 > Rapoo vt3. Because atk z1 has better shape and better specs

As a person who searched for an alternative for years. I eventually settled for an ec series inspired shape. The atk z1 was my choice.

I have tried around 40 mice in last year. I have 480 hz OLED with 9800x3D and RTX 5090. I got late into mouse hobby but I've tried most of the current premium lineup and some budget options. Lamzu is not as responsive as Logitech or Razer disregard of whatever you may think. Lamzu 3950 feels the same as ATK 3950, as Mchose 3950 as any other brand WHICH USES THE SAME OEM SOFTWARE ONCE THEY PUT A BATCH ORDER. Any company WHICH DOES THEIR OWN SOFTWARE IMPLEMENTATION like Logitech or Razer FEELS DIFFERENT. Disregard of sensor position or DPI deviation, in fact latest software on both GPX2 and V3Pro allow you to make 1 to 1 DPI. Mouse responsiveness is different and I would say that Razer, Logitech and Zowie are THE best in terms of software implentation for 3950 sensor. Razer has 0 delay Motion Sync which feels more responsive than Lamzu without motion sync (while Lamzu with Motion Sync is pure trash) Zowie also has bad motion sync but other than that feels good. Logitech is probably the oldest and the most weird but once you get used to it it is quite good as well. You may trust numbers or be delusional because "hardware is the same" but in hand feeling is different.

Look into brands like VXE, MChose and ATK. They usually make high quality clones of popular mice. I use the ATK Z1 at the moment