ATK - Z1 Pro

Is it going to be lighter? I hope so, it’s the main reason I changed to an ATK Z1 tbh, lighter and a better dongle out of the box. Screw paying £150 for a mouse then an extra £40 for an 8k dongle……..

Wired Deathadder v3, ATK Z1

Similar hand size and I use relaxed claw. While I vaguely tried to follow the small mice rule, none of those were great for comfort. Talking about the VXE R1/Mad R size. Those were giving me pain around the little finger. The comfortable ones were mid to large sized. EC2, S1, Haste, DAV3 were infinitely better. Currently using ATK Z1 (EC2 clone) and it has been great. My conclusions were - length of more than 120mm and grip width of 62mm or more.

IMO ATK Z1 > Rapoo vt3. Because atk z1 has better shape and better specs

As a person who searched for an alternative for years. I eventually settled for an ec series inspired shape. The atk z1 was my choice.

Look into brands like VXE, MChose and ATK. They usually make high quality clones of popular mice. I use the ATK Z1 at the moment

Sorry for the late reply, I'd reccoemnd a few for you then. ATK Z1: Solid somewhat original ergo shape can be found for fairly cheap. Ajazz Aj179 2: Superlight Dex clone with decent internals Incott Gpro Hero: GPX like shape that leans ergo Keychon makes many many mice for 50$ that are fiarly solid Metapanda 01: Deathadder V3 Pro clone but slightly smaller with solid internals most of these are fairly cheap and i can give you a way more extensive list of mice under 70$ if you'd like but it's in my comment history

razer deathadder v3 if you dont mind a wire, just get a bungee so no cable drag, or ATK Z1 if you want a cheaper version. It's practically the same shape

+1 for the atk z1

Had a pretty hefty game session last night using the Kysona Jupiter Ultra, and had a big smile on my face. :) $60 for a Viper v3 Pro clone with Omron Opticals.

vxe mad r+ (or any other atk mouse with 3395/3950 and optical switches), rawm es21, rapoo vt7 max if you like palming your mouse (among those rapoo has best battery life - 400h at 1k polling while most other get 100-200)

It's not "bad" per se, just very very expensive for what you get, especially if you consider that the Superlight 1 can't even go above 1000hz. Superlight 2 in white also has yellowing issues with the coating/paint. When you look at it from price to performance value, you get way more with mice like the VXE R1 Pro, or ATK blazing sky, etc. Pros don't really care cuz they're either making a ton of money, or they get tons of superlights for free.