ATK - Z1 Pro Max

EDITOR'S NOTES It finally came out, huh? lol A while ago, the list 1.0 of the best mice on AliExpress was posted here on Sub, which was focused on Low Budget and more cost-benefit than performance. In this list we focused on prioritizing mice that are also cost-effective but with High End quality (that's why you'll miss some models like the Attack Shark X6, X11, AJAZZ models and others). Remembering that this tier list is based on personal experiences, leave your comment respectfully if you disagree and leave your Up if you like the work! Without further ado, let's go :D WRITTEN TIER LIST - S+: Scyrox V8, Scyrox V6, Zaopin ZPW Max, ATK F1 Extreme, ATK X1 Ultimate - S: Attack Shark R3, VXE MAD R, Attack Shark R5, Delux M900 Ultralight 8K Set, ATK Z1, MCHOSE A7 Ultra, ATK A9 Ultra - A: VGN F1 Pro, VXE R1 Pro Max, Zaopin Z2 Mini Max, Zaopin Z1 - B: Fantech Aria II, IYX Amber, Incott G23 Pro, Helios II Pro - C: Rapoo VT3 Pro Max, Rapoo VT1 Pro, MCHOSE A5, Delux M800 4k ABOUT THE TOP OF THE LIST - Scyrox V8 and V6: These two mice manage to deliver ultra-light weight, excellent construction, marked scroll, great finish, the best sensor on the market and still have an affordable price. (Same shape: Pulsar X2H) - Zaopin ZPW Max: A new launch on the market with an ergonomic shape that fits practically any hand size and grip. Although ergonomic shapes tend to have some flaws in the construction of the main buttons, this mouse managed to achieve the perfect construction.All that said, it has 8K and an excellent sensor at an affordable price, great value for money. (Same shape: Lamzu Thorn) - ATK F1 Extreme: This mouse has been on the market for a while now, but it is extremely consolidated with more of the same, better sensor, 8K and it still has the Ice Feeling coating, characteristic of ATK that helps with sweaty hands. This mouse also weighs 35 grams, making it extremely light. It's worth every penny for the quality of the material and finish, a top-notch mouse. (Same Shape: Razer Viper Mini) - ATK X1 Ultimate: The success of this mouse speaks for itself, it is everything that the ATK F1 is, but ends up being a little heavier and with a different shape for bigger hands. The Ice Feeling is also on this mouse and today it comes in metallic red and metallic purple, which may please some. (Same shape: Razer Viper V3) - IPI FLOAT: In this mouse segment, it is extremely cost-effective. When I say this, I am considering that it is practically a Finalmouse Low Budget, offering great performance but being 4 times cheaper than a Finalmouse. Some negative points would be its Feets and battery if you turn it on, but in terms of performance and overall construction, this mouse is incredible. (Same shape: VAXEE XE-S) A TIER A LITTLE LOWER - Attack Shark R3: This is a magnesium mouse that I can say the same about the IPI FLOAT: in the magnesium segment this mouse is almost 3 times cheaper than the main ones and delivers a great set. The mouse, despite being an Attack Shark, is very well built and finished, offers a great sensor and lightness, making your user experience great. (Same shape: G-wolves HTX) - VXE MAD R: This mouse is excellent, period. One of the ultra-lightweight mice, great coating, good price... so why isn't it S+? Scyrox is simply better in every aspect for a lower price, so it comes in at the S tier very well placed. (Same shape: Zowie S2-DW) - Attack Shark R5: To be quite honest, this mouse is almost a copy of the IPI FLOAT but has better feet and a better sensor, but it doesn't justify its price being almost 50% more than the IPI FLOAT, so it's in this position. (Same shape: VAXEE XE-S) - Delux M900 Ultralight 8k Set: This mouse has an extremely cost-effective set. Great coating, comes with Nano Reciver 8K, a new technology on the market, ergonomic shape that also has a good construction (not as much as the Zaopin ZPW Max) that pleases most hands and a great option for Claw grip, your hand simply rests on the mouse. (Same shape: Zowie EC1) - ATK Z1 Pro Max: This is a mouse that I didn't put in the S+ tier so as not to be too much of a club fan, hahaha. The truth is that the shape of this mouse is extremely comfortable for all hands, a shape that is used by several pro players in a mouse that is twice as expensive, it has excellent quality (after all, it is from ATK) and has a very good sensor and batteries. (Same shape: Pulsar Xlite) - MCHOSE A7 Ultra: the famous GPX shape in a really good construction (different from the GPX's own scroll wheel :p). The mouse is very complete and offers everything a high end mouse needs with excellent quality and shape for a price much lower than the price of a GPX, for example. (Same shape: guess what? Logitech G Pro Superlight 2) - ATK A9 Ultra: Pretty much the same description as the mouse above, it has the same shape as the GPX and is of excellent quality. It is a little more expensive than the MCHOSE, but it is ATK quality, in case you are unsure about exploring new horizons with the MCHOSE. (Same shape: Logitech G Pro Superlight 2) SOME FINAL CONSIDERATIONS Ultimately, all Tier S+ mice and even some mentions of Tier S have excellent quality and power, the difference will be small in relation to price (except for those in a specific segment such as Magnesium and Carbon Fiber), so the ideal is for you to choose the shape that best suits your hand and buy the one you like the most! I'm glad you guys are supporting me in the first tier, if you have any opinions, the comments are always open with a lot of respect! :D Tier list 3.0??

Great question! One thing I didn't make clear in the list is that I selected several great mice, Tier C is just what's on the list, but there are mice MUCH worse than those in tier C, don't worry. About Rapoo, it is an excellent cost-benefit mouse, it has a lower price, but delivers good results, battery, performance, basically what a gamer needs for a low price. Do you need to make a jump to S or S+ tier? It depends. You may be a casual gamer who plays Team Fortress in your spare time to have fun and laugh with friends, so it's not worth paying more for a mouse that is already serving your needs for fun. The game changes when you tell me you are more competitive in games, when you say you spend more time on the computer besides playing (work, study), when you need to use the mouse more, but you will see that a good coating, a good sensor (it will last much longer if updated), good weight, especially the PROPER SHAPE in your hand, all of this makes a difference in the long term with your mouse. In short, it is worth it, if you are competitive and/or work and study using the mouse as well, not in my opinion :D

Your hands are not small - middle hands are from 17 till 19 cm (middle mouse 116-125 mm). So, generally for this hand and palm grip You need mouse 120 - 126 mm, but You feel that 125 mm Superlight is big. It looks a bit strange measure Your hands once again from wrist crease to middle fingertip. You tell that hand is small, but it is not. Taking into account above, I suggest You to go to the first PC shop and found some size of the mouse which is good for You. Anyhow, lets find something for You inbetween 118-122 mm - all of them good. 1. 122 mm Razer DeathAdder V3 HyperSpeed - smaller version of Deathadder V3Pro (one of flagship mouses) 2. 122 mm EGG XM2we - good mouse with optical switches. Not expensive 3. 122 mm ATK Z1 ProMax / Ultra-solid good mouse with best inside. Chinese, good, not expensive. (they have 118 mm ATK F1 - I'm afraid it might be too small for U) 4. 120,4 mm Pulsar X2H v3 or 122 mm Xlite v4 middle size (not Large) - good new mouses with optical switches and sensors... 5. 119 mm LAMZU Maya 4K (not Maya X) or LAMZU Fnatic MAYA 8K - very good mouse, with special top coating, good optical switches and sensor... 6. 118 mm Scyrox V8 or 119 mm scyrox V6 - good chinese mouses with best inside. 7. 118 mm Hitscan Hyperlight - new very good mouse with best inside.

Im using atk z1 pro max and im happy.

Right now im using atk z1 pro max and im pretty happy with the results. Im between claw and palm grip.

You should take a look at the eloshapes website and use the comparison tool. I'm not sure what you would consider cheap but I would suggest just going through the similar mice it shows you and checking out brands that do not seem familiar (Usually they end up being Chinese). Always make sure to look up reviews/other peoples experiences before buying. I did find something that is pretty similar in price: ATK Z1 (ultra and pro max) they look really similar to the deathadder v2. I think you can pick one up from aliexpress just check the seller feedback, age, and products sold to be safe since there are multiple sellers selling them from what I saw.

Had a pretty hefty game session last night using the Kysona Jupiter Ultra, and had a big smile on my face. :) $60 for a Viper v3 Pro clone with Omron Opticals.

Is it going to be lighter? I hope so, it’s the main reason I changed to an ATK Z1 tbh, lighter and a better dongle out of the box. Screw paying £150 for a mouse then an extra £40 for an 8k dongle……..

Wired Deathadder v3, ATK Z1

All of those are not great choices. G309 and Orochi are old and heavy. Attack Shark X3 has fine specs but is made by Attack Shark which I would avoid. Mchose or ATK are generally the best options for good price while still being quality. Mchose A5 or A7 is probably a good option (A5 being slightly smaller) ATK A9 is also good. You can also look at more a Viper clone with the Mchose K7 or ATK X1. Or an Ergo with the Mchose A7 (RE) or ATK Z1.

Similar hand size and I use relaxed claw. While I vaguely tried to follow the small mice rule, none of those were great for comfort. Talking about the VXE R1/Mad R size. Those were giving me pain around the little finger. The comfortable ones were mid to large sized. EC2, S1, Haste, DAV3 were infinitely better. Currently using ATK Z1 (EC2 clone) and it has been great. My conclusions were - length of more than 120mm and grip width of 62mm or more.

IMO ATK Z1 > Rapoo vt3. Because atk z1 has better shape and better specs

As a person who searched for an alternative for years. I eventually settled for an ec series inspired shape. The atk z1 was my choice.