Darmoshark - M5 Pro

I agree with the scyrox being based tier. Darmoshark M5 pro should be on this list for being the only viable fingertip exclusive shape to come out of AliExpress thus far.

Oh hey we have the same hand size! Right now I'm using the Darmoshark M5 Pro with a relaxed claw grip. It's comfy and the hump/back feels snug in my palm when I do a tighter claw grip. The only thing I don't like about it is the stiff middle button but I think it's getting better over time. The shape is different but when it comes to length, I think the Darmoshark M3 Micro would be fine too.

I have tiny hands, 15x10ish. I have the Darmoshark M5 Pro coming from Fantech Aria XD7 and it’s really comfy for me. I can easily do all grips on it though I usually claw it. I’ve had it for more than 2 weeks now and haven’t ran into any problems. Charged it after 19 days, 6 or so hours of gaming everyday. My only issue is that the middle click is really stiff though I’ve noticed it has improved a tiny bit over the weeks. Edit: tried the Keychron M4 too. I didn’t like the grooves/curves on the side but I did like how the clicks felt.

Pre-travel comes up a lot when people talk about the Darmo M5 Pro. I'm not an FPS gamer nor do I know what pre-travel feels like. To me, it just feels responsive and I actually do like the clicks. If someone asks me if I could buy another mouse that isn't the M5 Pro, I'd probably try the Mchose L7 or maybe even the Darmo M3 Micro.

I have the same hand size, also sweat a lot and play mostly fingertip and the best mouse that has fit me so far is the Darmoshark M5 pro.  I have recently ordered a new mouse so we'll see if anything can knock off the M5 pro. My partner has the OP1w 4K and I can say that it's probably the best choice if you want to play claw with 17.5 X 10cm hand size.

https://youtu.be/o7s0mMXB-RY?si=msy-dYltcKXwr6MY BEST Gaming Mice of 2025 (so far) They are your hands, what fits them and what you find comfortable and what grip you use are all things you need to take in to account and can't be decided for you.  I use a Darmoshark M5 Pro because I fingertip, it would be awful for anyone who palm grips mice. 

I got the Darmoshark M5 and M5 Pro and haven't run into any issues. The Pro has quite a bit of pretravel but I believe its caused by the switches, not the shell.

I got the Darmoshark M5 and M5 Pro and haven't run into any issues. The Pro has quite a bit of pretravel but I believe its caused by the switches, not the shell.

M5 or M5 Pro? The M5 Pro with the Kailh White blade switches has literally zero

I just switched to a palm mouse today (fingertip -> MMO mouse), and I absolutely didn't account for how sweaty it was going to make my hand/I didn't realize that fingertip mousing was allowing airflow that I would miss when it was gone. XD Also, I forgot that removing the grip tape from my fingertip mouse was a bad time - I'd switched to a palm-like stance to prepare for switching mice, and... I don't miss fingertip at all. I don't have to engage my fingers to hold the thing, and I only need grip when lifting off (and there's enough "texture" in these MMO buttons on the side to act as a natural grip).

Being "jacked", and being a pro lifter isn't the same thing as *functional* *strength*. You can have all the muscle in the world, and not have the speed, control, or stamina required to move a heavy mouse around for a few hours at a time. Ultimately, a more massive mouse is going to require more dexterity and strength to overcome starting and stopping inertia, and more stamina to keep up with during matches. Imagine having no mouse weight at all - the mass you're dealing with becomes just your hand, which is not zero. You still need the strength and dexterity to move your hand, and stop your hand. It's still a function of the full arm/chest system's ability. If we go the opposite direction, a heavier mouse just requires more. Spend more time with a heavier mouse, your will acclimate. I thought I wanted hyper-light keyboard switches, so I modded 20g springs into my optical, linear board. Lots of mistakes, and trying to go back to my de-clicked Box Navy board was an exhausting thing. But I got used to it (again), and it's now really consistent, and I can type just as fast as I did before (and the heavier springs damp the bottom out, so it's actually slightly more comfortable). Assuming everybody has maximum game sense and tactics, a lighter mouse is only better if you're not willing to acclimate to a heavier mouse. I honestly think the whole push for lighter mice is a matter of side-by-side comparison, and how a lighter mouse feels better in the moment, after *just* using a heavier mouse, but eventually it starts feeling "heavy" again, because you've acclimated to it. Which is exactly what I was feeling when using my Darmoshark M5 for a good while. And there's some argument that "you've been training with a heavier mouse, and now you're using a lighter one, so it's going to feel faster and easier, because you're acclimated to a heavier something". I have this 40g Darmoshark mouse, and I just got a 120g "MMO" mouse *today* \- all of this is fresh in my mind. I'm honestly thinking about looking into adding weight to my mouse, and then switching to a glass pad or something. And that's another something to consider: if you're using cloth, a heavier mouse "digs" into the material more. If you're on a hard pad, it's going to be even less of a difference.

A lightweight mouse is only more responsive because the weight of the device is greatly overpowered by the strength and dexterity of your wrist, arm, and shoulder tendons & muscles. If you trained with a much heavier mouse, you will eventually acclimate, and it will stop feeling heavy (you have to give your body time to acclimate). Ultimately, mouse weight doesn't matter. (I just - today, like an hour ago - "downgraded" to a massive, heavy MMO mouse from my Darmoshark M5 fingertip, 40g mouse. Having more buttons will be *awesome...* if I can get this software to work. The only real downside I'm running into: I didn't realize switching to palm grip, and pressing my hand up against a giant mouse, was going to make my hand heat up as much as it does!)

As far as I'm aware, my current setup is my endgame. I can't find anything better that's readily available/trustworthy: * Redragon M811W-RGB-PRO * Ergonomic tilt (would prefer vertical, but I don't think there are any vertical MMO mice). I thought my Darmoshark M5 was my endgame, but, in hindsight, I was just putting up with wrist pronation, and having to close my thumb and little finger together just all the time, and that's exhausting and terrible * Plenty of buttons for hotkeys/macros/navigation * Comfortable * Wireless * Weight is not a concern - I can acclimate * Games other than high speed FPS/twitch shooters *exist*, but you wouldn't know it from visiting this subreddit * PFU Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 PD-KB400B * There's a wireless mod I'm considering * Tactility feels really good * Bested my personal typing speed record on this thing, and I've only had it a few weeks * I would like to get MX stems for it, so I can try my MOA keycaps - could be a good time * I hear stupid-stiff domes would be a good time for me, too, so that's in a cart somewhere I'm not super fond of the... Yugioh card mat I'm using as a mouse surface/deskmat currently, and I'd like to try a glass pad at some point. I miss the Razer Sphex I had, like, a decade ago.

Also the pro line by darmoshark was way less plagued with click issues like the 'regular' darmoshark mice were, if that helps

Darmoshark m5 for me personally, its just a cheaper gwolves alternative imo, can't say for sure its better cus i don't have the gwolves equivalent

I think you are right. But they don't have any business to be that expensive. We need more 50-80 fingertip mice. Right now there is only keychron K4 and Darmo M5.

I would love if Darmoshark made their M5 Air from plastic and made it same price as regular M5. Or if somebody like Mchose repurposed their top tier PCB from L7 and made fingertip mouse.

Hey, I’ve got the orange Zero too!! With my Darmoshark M5 as well, the white on orange is so pretty 🥰

I almost pulled the trigger on the m5 but had this randomly pop up on fb marketplace for basically the same price as the m5. I really like the mouse, my only real gripe is the placement of the side buttons. I'm used to hitting them with the middle joint on my thumb but it's just harder with this mouse. Nother other complaints though. The Fenrir Asym is a good bit shorter and wider than the m5 so i'd be curious to see how different it would be to use. I also had an op1 8k but decided it wasn't going to be my main. Great mouse though.

The HSK plus will feel a bit like a GPX and the Darmoshark M5 will feel like a Finalmouse small (Both being with their backs cut off) Personally I love my M5, but you get whatever suits you. HSK is larger, M5 is smaller

darmoshark m5, better sensor. my hsk plus lite doesnt perform well on glass, and the battery life is pretty bad too

I have m5 and let me tell you, pre travel is caused by luck.

What’s your experience with fingertips? I just got a Darmoshark 5 after using OP1 for a while and am in love.

Mouse: Darmoshark M5 Pad: Saturn Pro Keyboard: RK Royal Kludge RK84 Game(s): Primarily Helldivers 2 at the moment with Hell Let Loose and Delta Force sprinkled in.

This. Highly dependent on your grip style preference. After getting what I thought would be the best based on popular opinion (which wasn’t wrong) I realized I prefer finger tip style, so the Darmoshark M5 is my main.

I love my Darnoshark M5, it’s all I use.

I’m really wanting the fenrir asym, but honestly I’d like to try all their fingertip mice. I was using the OP1 for a while before getting my Darmoshark M5, and I’m in love with it. It’s all I use, primarily for shooters.

Yeah no complaints about the OP1, I think I realized it was just a little long for me personally. Nice find! I would’ve done the same. I plan on getting a g-wolves eventually but they are a bit on the pricier side for me personally. Interesting, just tried it out and looks like I use the tip of my thumb with the M5, honestly not something I’d ever thought about haha

In addition the front edges are rounded so better precision when moving the mouse diagonally easily. The M5 is a good mouse too but since I have the Keychron M4, I find that all the other mice have too many "straight" sides, which prevents easy diagonal movements. There are also many other mice like the HTR G-wolves which is great in small hand clawgrip, but expensive. The best value for a small hand is for me the Keychron M4.

In my current experience, I also back ftip grip my mouse like you and current find that Asym and superlight 2C for a more budget friendly option Darmoshark M5 work pretty well.

Go with the g wolves one. I myself own the M5 and let’s just say the quality control on Darmo products are hit or miss.

Double clicking issues right out the box on mouse button 1 and the middle button. When pressing down higher on m1 the mouse creaks and wobbles.

I’m quite opposite of you when switching to ftip. My tracking is way more fast and accurate while my flicking is worse. I play Overwatch 2 mainly and I notice that my aim on Ashe and McCree are worse and can’t hit anything like I used to. On the other side, Bastion and 76 are way better and improve. I’m using Darmoshark M5 and X2F mainly, coming from XM2w. Looking forward to tryout HSK soon

I have 21cm length hands and have to fingertip grip most mice. I have all the small mice like the HSK Pro, HTR, Darmodhark M5, OP1 and more. I can BARELY claw my G403 with my fingers almost hanging off the front of the mouse, so even though we have large hands I think it’s best we use small mice with FLAT SIDES. Or at least flatish. The curves really get in the way of the thumb imo. I recently got the pulsar crazylight and adore it for fingertip. It has nice flat sides, and enough height and length for my thumb. It also has a lack of a “hip” in the back which is nice. As a bonus it’s also 35g. I also have the Beast X Mini otw and think I will like that one but can’t say yet Also the other guy is right I cut out blanks of supergrips to fit any mouse I use, helps a lot with fingertip grip.

Def not a gimmick. I own a darmoshark M5 and it feels amazing. If u fingertip/claw grip ur mouse, this feels like unlocking a hidden art lol. IMO it felt like I opened up to more better micro precision movements and also it feels air tight with any movement I make. 8K polling rate on that bad boy too. Truly worth every cent imo

[Thumb goes here.](https://preview.redd.it/01orqaxukyje1.jpg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e84be69a4468efc3e4afc5a3137682974f23a0fe) 21.5 cm hands, exclusively fingertip grip. Thing is, due to wrist comfort (pronation) I place my thumb ABOVE the buttons as pictured. Currently on the DA V3. Issue: the button is still partly "in the way" which affects grip/aim. Are there any modern mice w/o thumb buttons? Only viable options I know are mice that can have them removed and "filled" such as the G Pro/G903. I've considered true "vertical" mice but fear they'll be too much of a compromise. I really prefer the lightweight of the DA V3, which is essential for fingertip. And yes, I've tried actual fingertip mice. I have a Darmoshark M5 and OP1. Problem with them: 1. Too narrow. 2. Not *tall* enough (DA works because of the space ABOVE the side-buttons due to height. This allow my wrist to be in what's closer to the "handshake" position.

darmoshark m5 and padsmith dark chaos

I recommend the mchose l7 or darmoshark m5 (a fingertip only mouse)

Darmoshark m5 is of a similar shape.

Mx518 g pro if you want the old shape. Recommend a grip change + benchmarks grind to create new muscle memory. I used to palm mx518, but I eventually did a fingertip grip on it for a while before switching to the g wolves hsk pro and darmoshark m5.

M5 for 50$ is great budget fingertip mouse. Not endgame, but solid.

What part of QC did you notice was lacking? I just bought the M5 a few days ago and it seems solid so far.

My hand is large too and I like small mice. The budget hsk pro is the darmoshark m5 which I'm currently using. It goes up to 8k if you like that. You can get pro version.

I have the Keychron M4, Darmoshark M5, and G-Wolves HSK Pro Ace. My favorite (by a pretty wide margin) is the HSK, actually. The M5 _would be_ my second favorite, but my unit has tracking issues :/ The M4 is definitely solid, and for the price it is insane. But I found the shape kinda uncomfortable. I mostly use it as a travel mouse nowadays. I'm considering getting an HTX Mini as a secondary (since my M5 has issues) but it's pretty expensive.

I recently bought the darmoshark and love it, reminds me of the op1 8k grip wise. just cut in half.

HSK plus is better. G wolves for sure has better build quality than Darmoshark and sensor implementation. I have multiple mice from both brands.

VXE/VGN is extremely solid in terms of build quality but is priced the highest among the ones you listed Mchose has good build quality but some QoL issues, all minor things but not on the same standard as VGN Darmoshark performs well and is priced super well but falls short in terms of build quality. Is that a big deal on a 30€ mouse? In my opinion, no. It just feels cheap but will perform just as well as anything else I have never owned any Zaopin mouse, they're usually well reviewed though